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  • #16
    What would cause the brakes to engage when the bike is sitting unattended? Even if the calipers seized up they'd already be in a neutral position relative to the disk and would need to be pushed in to cause the drag.
    Last edited by LAB3; 02-03-2025, 01:14 PM.
    1980 XS1100G

    I identify as a man but according to the label on a package of Stauffers Baked Lasagne I'm actually a family of four!

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    • #17
      There is little room between the pads and the rotor when brakes are at rest. As things build up behind the seals, they push out. The only way out is engage pads.
      Ray Matteis
      KE6NHG
      XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
      XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by LAB3 View Post
        Talk about rabbit hole diving!

        Here's what we KNOW:

        1) The bike rolled into it's winter storage spot with no known issues

        2) The owner tried to move the bike while it was relatively cold outside and noticed the problem for the first time

        3) Clutch drag due to cold oil makes the most sense barring any other further evidence

        If this thread continues it will eventually lead to other theories such as Bigfoot and Aliens. Given enough time it will decay into political motives at which point the forum will completely fall apart!

        Stick with the basics! KISS
        The brake system on these bikes was never the best to begin with and is the first suspect. Not saying that everything else mentioned is not a possibility but if I were sitting with that bike the calipers and masters are my first thing. In my opinion that is using the kiss method. Chasing anything else until you prove those are working properly is chasing your tail. By the way Peter owns a special and it could be something as simple as the calipers are not centered on the rotors.
        2 - 80 LGs bought one new
        81 LH
        02 FXSTB Nighttrain
        22 FLTRK Road Glide Limited
        Jim

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        • #19
          Originally posted by LAB3 View Post
          Talk about rabbit hole diving!

          Here's what we KNOW:

          1) The bike rolled into it's winter storage spot with no known issues

          2) The owner tried to move the bike while it was relatively cold outside and noticed the problem for the first time

          3) Clutch drag due to cold oil makes the most sense barring any other further evidence

          If this thread continues it will eventually lead to other theories such as Bigfoot and Aliens. Given enough time it will decay into political motives at which point the forum will completely fall apart!

          Stick with the basics! KISS
          I concur. Not bigfeets oar aliens. That's the usual sightings/stories in the PNW (O_O)

          Ain't oldyam80sg in New Jersey? (O_o)

          Then we gotta include the recent mysterious D R O N E S sightings in our analysis. (^_^)

          Note- Sadly, NJ was one of the five continental states I actually didn't drive/ride my Special. Drove thru it in my vehicle "Moby" but never unloaded the bike and vroom vroomed. (っ˘̩╭╮˘̩)っ

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          • #20
            I will hopefully check it more tomorrow. My Jeep failed vehicle inspection in Novemeber and I found a shop that will look at it tomorrow. My bike is a 1/4 mile from my apartment so I will go there while I wait.
            1980 XS1100 SG
            Inline fuel filters
            New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
            160 mph speedometer mod
            Kerker Exhaust
            xschop K & N air filter setup
            Dynojet Recalibration kit
            1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
            1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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            • #21
              My first move with old bikes (like the CB900C I just picked up this weekend) is to a) put air in the tires and b) give all of the brake calipers a solid whack with a rubber mallet. If the bike is in neutral, that *should* do it.
              Yamahas: 1979 XS1100F
              Past Yamahas: 1978 XS1100E, 1976 XS500C

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              • #22
                I didn't get a chance to look at the bike today, but did get my metric wrench set from my Mothers house so I can look at the front brakes this weekend.
                1980 XS1100 SG
                Inline fuel filters
                New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
                160 mph speedometer mod
                Kerker Exhaust
                xschop K & N air filter setup
                Dynojet Recalibration kit
                1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
                1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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                • #23
                  The rubber mallet will work if the seals have been pushed out, as it will push the piston back in just a fraction. I would give that a try first, as it's quick and easy with immediate results one way or the other.
                  Ray Matteis
                  KE6NHG
                  XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                  XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                  • #24
                    My 79F was hard to roll this fall. I took bike on center stand and it wasn't the rear binding up. Took one caliper on front off, wheel spun freely. Put it back on, was very hard to spin wheel. Took caliper off, disassembled, cleaned all parts, including piston, reassembled, installed, and bled the lines. Front wheel spins freely. Forgot to mention, cleaned sponge hole before I took off calipers, but that wasn't the issue, it was the sticky piston and gunk.
                    79 F
                    Previously owned: (among others)
                    1969 Harley- Davidson Rapido 125 (Aermacchi)
                    1967 Suzuki X6 Hustler
                    1973 Suzuki TM 125
                    1979 XS1100 F
                    2005 Kaw. Vulcan VN800
                    1991 BMW K75

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                    • #25
                      I got to try this. This past weekend was too cold, and my storage unit parking lot is a sheet of ice. I have my Yamaha and also another bike in there, so 1 bike has got to be moved in order for me to work on the other. I have my full set of metric wrenches in my Jeep so I can take the caliper off.
                      1980 XS1100 SG
                      Inline fuel filters
                      New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
                      160 mph speedometer mod
                      Kerker Exhaust
                      xschop K & N air filter setup
                      Dynojet Recalibration kit
                      1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
                      1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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