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  • SeaAtp1100
    XSive
    • Feb 2024
    • 26
    • Seattle

    #16
    Originally posted by Mathh
    That lambda sensor position is questionable. If that pipe is shoved into the mufflers and not sealed or welded it will give false readings as it will suck in fresh air when off throttle (or idling).
    I’d rather be too rich that too lean, false readings if it’s not sealed tight I still compensate by going richer . It’s just a temporary set up to take on the road so I can figure out the needle position and main jet. At idle I wrap a towel at the joint for a reading. It gets me in the ballpark before $180 a pop dyno pulls. I only have to do 1 or 2 pulls instead of 3.

    Got me pretty close the last time. If I recall correctly I had to go down 1 size on the main, pilot and needle position were correct on this rz350
    Last edited by SeaAtp1100; 06-07-2024, 01:01 PM.

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    • Mathh
      XSive Maximus
      • Nov 2006
      • 663
      • Beek, Netherlands

      #17
      Originally posted by SeaAtp1100

      I’d rather be too rich that too lean, false readings if it’s not sealed tight I still compensate by going richer . It’s just a temporary set up to take on the road so I can figure out the needle position and main jet. At idle I wrap a towel at the joint for a reading. It gets me in the ballpark before $180 a pop dyno pulls. I only have to do 1 or 2 pulls instead of 3.
      You're thinking in the right direction, you'll get there, good luck!
      Last edited by Mathh; 06-07-2024, 03:45 PM.
      XS1100 3X0 '82 restomod, 2H9 '78 chain drive racer, 3H3 '79 customized.
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      • SeaAtp1100
        XSive
        • Feb 2024
        • 26
        • Seattle

        #18
        Ended up brazing the advance I don’t have access to a mig welder anymore Click image for larger version  Name:	B83579EE-A0D3-45AB-B0AF-2BE69A8740AD.jpeg Views:	0 Size:	129.7 KB ID:	880171
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        • SeaAtp1100
          XSive
          • Feb 2024
          • 26
          • Seattle

          #19
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          • DEEBS11
            XS-XJ Guru
            • Feb 2023
            • 1421
            • Connecticut

            #20
            That area is going to be very hot. I worry about the plastic choke pull and cable pulley. Although they are probably a type of thermal plastic.

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            • SeaAtp1100
              XSive
              • Feb 2024
              • 26
              • Seattle

              #21
              If the carb was mounted to the other side of the turbo it would melt for sure

              Here’s the side cover right next to the hot side of the turbo, if it was that hot I’d expect it to be droopy after all these years.


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              • SeaAtp1100
                XSive
                • Feb 2024
                • 26
                • Seattle

                #22
                Now you have me looking deebs. The regulator sits right above that turbo the ground wires to it are close to the turbo, no sign of anything getting too hot. I don’t think there’s anything to be concerned about because heat isn’t getting trapped like from a hood on a car.
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                • DiverRay
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 7608
                  • Star, IDAHO

                  #23
                  Remember, the turbo is only producing excess heat when boosting pressure. This is when the bike is moving, so you have airflow over the turbo and the "soft" parts near it. Having owned a 650 Seca Turbo back in the day, I can say boost is very low under most driving conditions. And yes, I did have the 12psi boost kit on the bike.
                  Ray Matteis
                  KE6NHG
                  XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                  XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                  • DEEBS11
                    XS-XJ Guru
                    • Feb 2023
                    • 1421
                    • Connecticut

                    #24
                    Ray, I had one of those. Some guy gave it to me in poor shape and I rebuilt it. I locked the wastegate so the poppet valve opened at 12 pounds. I think I remember using safety wire. It was a cool bike. Carbs were special because of the blown-through turbo. All sealed for pressurization.


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                    • DEEBS11
                      XS-XJ Guru
                      • Feb 2023
                      • 1421
                      • Connecticut

                      #25
                      Carb work.

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                      • DEEBS11
                        XS-XJ Guru
                        • Feb 2023
                        • 1421
                        • Connecticut

                        #26
                        This is what I drained out of the crank case. All water. Flushed it with cheap oil and kerosene. Got it hot and dropped the oil a few more time. Thing ran great. Lot's of fun.

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                        • DEEBS11
                          XS-XJ Guru
                          • Feb 2023
                          • 1421
                          • Connecticut

                          #27
                          I sold it to this guy. Saw him on it for a few years afterward. I love seeing something that should be dead, alive and kicking for many years to come.


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                          • DiverRay
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 7608
                            • Star, IDAHO

                            #28
                            Mine was repainted by me, but killed a few months later. Guy getting on to the freeway clipped the car in front of me, and I ended up hitting the passenger door of his car before being pushed by the car behind me. Walked away, but the bike was beyond saving. First of two bikes hit on the freeway with me riding them, and neither was my fault....
                            Ray Matteis
                            KE6NHG
                            XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                            XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                            • DEEBS11
                              XS-XJ Guru
                              • Feb 2023
                              • 1421
                              • Connecticut

                              #29
                              You are lucky to be alive.

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                              • Steverk
                                XSive
                                • Oct 2020
                                • 35
                                • Holland, Michigan

                                #30
                                This thread is aging somewhat. In addition to the timing issue that can be an engine killer with a turbo, you should be very concerned with sufficient end gap on the rings if you're running a stock setup.
                                Steve K
                                1980 xs11 special
                                1979 xs400
                                1989 Sportster
                                2016 KLR
                                2016 Africa Twin
                                1965 Chevelle
                                1970 Wife

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