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  • speedlimit85
    XStremely XSive
    • Jan 2017
    • 420
    • Gainesville, Fl.

    #1

    carb confessions

    I have never removed the carbs for cleaning tuning sync. I have only replaced needles and seats from under and on this bike the all important rubber passage plug.

    Today I asked a mechanic if he would clean the carbs and I said the idle keeps dropping. He sprayed choke cleaner on intake and it jumped.

    I plan to, for the first time, remove the carbs. I will fix the intake leak and give him the carbs to clean.

    Any advice on carb removal?

    Do I need to replace the intake boots, just some o-ring or what to fix the manifold air leak.
    80 G
  • Socer4m
    XStremely XSive
    • Sep 2020
    • 228
    • san diego

    #2
    Hi Speedlimit, do a search for carb cleaning in the search section,,,lots of info, but before you do that,,,,get the bike running, spray some carb cleaner or instant start in the front of the carb boots, backside, and locate which carb boot is leakiing. Maybe just tighten down the bolts to the leaking intake, then spray again. The idle adjustment is in the middle underside of the carbs, screw clockwise to speed idle up if too low, use a flat screwdrive if hot or fingers if cold...the rubber intakes last forever, if cracked smear some black rtv over exterior to cover up the cracks, also tighten the carb clamps as that can cause idle problems if loose,,,,,,,,,,
    ,,if the carbs were running good except for a low idle they do not need to be cleaned,,,,just adjust the idle screw first and check the boots. If all else fails,,,,pull the carbs, follow the cleaning procedures in the search section, tighten the rubber boots, and try to enjoy what every xs owner has to do sometime is cleaning the carbs, sometimes multiple times. good luck and keep us informed,,,,Mike in San DIego and Pa.

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    • speedlimit85
      XStremely XSive
      • Jan 2017
      • 420
      • Gainesville, Fl.

      #3
      Thanks. I will check and tighten the boots first.

      These boots are from mixes xs about 7 yrs ago and 30,000 mi.. If I do replace, they will be partzilla.
      Last edited by speedlimit85; 11-29-2022, 07:39 PM.
      80 G

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      • Socer4m
        XStremely XSive
        • Sep 2020
        • 228
        • san diego

        #4
        HI, 7 years is not old for boots,,,,so keep checking for leaks, tighten up the clamps, adjust the idle speed screw and pray for the xs gods to be good to you,,,,,,

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        • Schming
          XS-XJ Guru
          • Jul 2009
          • 2070
          • Pittsburgh,PA

          #5
          Check to see if the carb boots (engine side) have gaskets, if so they don't last long from the heat. I among others don't use them but smear a thin layer of Yamaha-bond 1104 in place of the paper gaskets and have never had a leak. Be careful not to over torque the bolts. Also check the brass vacuum tubes on the boots as some come loose.
          1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
          1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
          1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
          1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
          1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

          Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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          • Radioguylogs
            XS-XJ Guru
            • Nov 2012
            • 1933
            • Presque Isle, MI

            #6
            In addition to the intake manifold boots, the butterfly shaft seals can also cause a vacuum leak. It happened on my 1979 XS750 (same carbs).
            -Mike
            _________
            '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
            '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
            '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
            '79 XS750SF 17k miles
            '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
            '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
            '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

            Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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            • speedlimit85
              XStremely XSive
              • Jan 2017
              • 420
              • Gainesville, Fl.

              #7
              I see leaks on all 4 to the metal. These are the paper gaskets from mikes xs and are shot. I'm getting OEM this time.

              I regret having the boots replaced. The originals weren't leaking, just looked cracked.
              80 G

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              • Schming
                XS-XJ Guru
                • Jul 2009
                • 2070
                • Pittsburgh,PA

                #8
                Originally posted by speedlimit85
                I see leaks on all 4 to the metal. These are the paper gaskets from mikes xs and are shot. I'm getting OEM this time.

                I regret having the boots replaced. The originals weren't leaking, just looked cracked.
                The boots may be fine if the vac tubes are solid, just clean them and the head and use Yama - bond no gaskets.
                Just a thin layer is all that's necessary.

                Also, as Mike stated if you have your carbs rebuilt the butterfly shaft seals are a good idea to replace.
                1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
                1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
                1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
                1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
                1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

                Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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                • speedlimit85
                  XStremely XSive
                  • Jan 2017
                  • 420
                  • Gainesville, Fl.

                  #9
                  I got the carbs out and took the boots off! Parts of the gasket melted away into the rubber on all 4.

                  I ordered the OEM from partzilla$$--be here soon - later...

                  The OEM boots don't need gaskets or sealer right?
                  80 G

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                  • Tonyxs11
                    XStremely XSive
                    • Oct 2022
                    • 271
                    • Cumbria UK

                    #10
                    the OEM inlet rubbers have an O ring to seal them, but it wouldn't hurt to put a bit of sealant on if you want to.

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                    • jetmechmarty
                      Master of XSology
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 7761
                      • Coldwater, Mississippi

                      #11
                      Carburetor remove/install, simple.
                      Marty (in Mississippi)
                      XS1100SG
                      XS650SK
                      XS650SH
                      XS650G
                      XS6502F
                      XS650E

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                      • Schming
                        XS-XJ Guru
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 2070
                        • Pittsburgh,PA

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Tonyxs11
                        the OEM inlet rubbers have an O ring to seal them, but it wouldn't hurt to put a bit of sealant on if you want to.
                        Yes use a thin film of Yama-bond or an equivalent sealer between the head and boots ,no gaskets.
                        1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
                        1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
                        1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
                        1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
                        1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

                        Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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                        • speedlimit85
                          XStremely XSive
                          • Jan 2017
                          • 420
                          • Gainesville, Fl.

                          #13
                          The barefoot aussie helped.
                          80 G

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                          • speedlimit85
                            XStremely XSive
                            • Jan 2017
                            • 420
                            • Gainesville, Fl.

                            #14
                            I took the bracket off the top of the air filter and the parts fell out. I had to take the whole thing apart to get it right. The Aussie muscled it.

                            Then the throttle cable kinked and wasn't right. Then it got dark.

                            I should get it working good today.
                            80 G

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                            • Schming
                              XS-XJ Guru
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 2070
                              • Pittsburgh,PA

                              #15
                              Originally posted by speedlimit85
                              I took the bracket off the top of the air filter and the parts fell out. I had to take the whole thing apart to get it right. The Aussie muscled it.

                              Then the throttle cable kinked and wasn't right. Then it got dark.

                              I should get it working good today.
                              If you would've removed your shoes you woulda' sailed through it no problem
                              1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
                              1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
                              1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
                              1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
                              1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

                              Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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