rear brake caliper sticking xj1100

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  • xj11john
    XStremely XSive
    • Jun 2005
    • 440
    • Lafayette, TN

    #1

    rear brake caliper sticking xj1100

    Hey guys (generic for ya'll) got my xj11 a couple months ago and just got fully registered to post today, but I've been really enjoying and benefiting from the posts on this awsome site.

    I replaced the pads on the rear and noticed i could'nt push the piston on the rear caliper back in untill i loosened the bleeder screw, I asked a friend that works on motorcycles for a living about it, he said need to clean out the master cylinder. I have worked on cars and had a similar prob with one of my cars and just replaced the brake hose and it was fixed,
    does anyone know a good place to get brake line/hoses for one of these?

    thanks in advance.





    '82 xj1100j
    '82 Xj1100j

    "Ride for the Son"

    < )) ><

    John
  • John
    XS-XJ Super Guru
    • Oct 2003
    • 5117

    #2
    You could try ebay, but your best bet would be a member named Randy Rago. He makes and sells stainless steel hose for these bikes. Here is his website. http://home.ptd.net/~theragos/xs11/index.htm

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    • skids
      XS-XJ Super Guru
      • Jul 2002
      • 5048
      • Florissant, CO, USA

      #3
      Do a search on this web site for "spooge hole" and you will find out how to clean it. It could be your brake's problem. I lucked out when my rear's got tighter and tighter, got it home, and simply flushed the system with new fluid.
      Skids (Sid Hansen)

      Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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      • fxrer
        XStremely XSive
        • Aug 2004
        • 241
        • Bethlehem, PA 18017

        #4
        Hey John,

        Itโ€™s not that unusual to need to loosen the bleeder screw to retract the piston. The brake caliper could have sat for years with no p.m. and thus, the piston might have become slightly rusted/corroded. Often, you need a โ€œCโ€ clamp to force the piston back.

        Now that the new pads are in, does the brake work OK? Does it drag at all after the pedal is applied and released?

        If so, chances are you need to clean and/or rebuild rear caliper and perhaps rear mc. Check maintenance tips in this forum about brakes. Make sure to clean the โ€œspooge holeโ€ in the MC, as shown in the tips. Go here



        Also, do a โ€œsearchโ€ for brakes and you will see many threads on this subject
        Rick
        '80 SG
        '88 FXR
        '66 Spitfire MK II

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        • xj11john
          XStremely XSive
          • Jun 2005
          • 440
          • Lafayette, TN

          #5
          thanks guys for the help, i will check these tips and the web site on the stainless lines, fx the brakes work they just drag and make the rotor hot, thus giving me not the best gas mileage,

          thanks all

          xj11john
          '82 Xj1100j

          "Ride for the Son"

          < )) ><

          John

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          • chevy45412001
            XS-XJ Guru
            • Mar 2003
            • 1412
            • Jacksonville Florida

            #6
            draging

            ya need to clean out the master and calipers good. mine did the same thing.
            1982 XJ 1100
            going strong after 60,000 miles

            The new and not yet improved TRIXY
            now in the stable. 1982 xj11, 18,000miles

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            • xj11john
              XStremely XSive
              • Jun 2005
              • 440
              • Lafayette, TN

              #7
              Hey John, no lines on the link...?

              You could try ebay, but your best bet would be a member named Randy Rago. He makes and sells stainless steel hose for these bikes. Here is his website. http://home.ptd.net/~theragos/xs11/index.htm


              I tried the link, its his home page but didnt find the stainless brake lines, maybe i overlooked them...but don't think so is there another link?
              '82 Xj1100j

              "Ride for the Son"

              < )) ><

              John

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              • fxrer
                XStremely XSive
                • Aug 2004
                • 241
                • Bethlehem, PA 18017

                #8
                xj11john,

                If you do a search (left side) for "stainless steel brake lines", you will find several threads on the subject.

                Go to this one and read Randy's post on them - he can supply you a set.

                Rick
                '80 SG
                '88 FXR
                '66 Spitfire MK II

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                • John
                  XS-XJ Super Guru
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 5117

                  #9
                  xj11john

                  I'm sorry, but I should have mentioned that you need to e mail him with your needs. His ISP will charge him more if he uses his site for commercial purposes. He has supplied many members here with the S/S lines. His email should be on his web site.

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                  • xj11john
                    XStremely XSive
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 440
                    • Lafayette, TN

                    #10
                    Thanks guys

                    I appreciate all the help, Lord knows I as we all need it from time to time, hopefully I'll get to share some of this knowledge I'm gaining with the next batch of xs or xj lucky owners, later on

                    xj11john
                    '82 Xj1100j

                    "Ride for the Son"

                    < )) ><

                    John

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                    • rev79xs11
                      XSive
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 60
                      • Harrisburg, PA

                      #11
                      You might want to check your rear master cylinder also. Look inside the bottom where the rod enters and contacts the piston. Mine had a bunch of rust inside the boot and it kept the piston from retracting all the way. This kept the port blocked and prevented fluid from returning from the caliper.
                      Ron Evans
                      79 xs11sf
                      99 kawasaki ninja 250 (70mpg)!

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                      • xj11john
                        XStremely XSive
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 440
                        • Lafayette, TN

                        #12
                        Hey, Rev

                        Originally posted by rev79xs11
                        You might want to check your rear master cylinder also. Look inside the bottom where the rod enters and contacts the piston. Mine had a bunch of rust inside the boot and it kept the piston from retracting all the way. This kept the port blocked and prevented fluid from returning from the caliper.
                        How did you go about getting rid of the rust? Mine has that problem as well as several sticking calipers,

                        today I took two fronts and unstuck them and had to file a ding off of each one, I also took all brake lines off for cleaning since I dont have the dough for stainless ones now
                        , I also took both Masters off and cleaned them, which I will hopefully finish tomorrow, I doubt I get it all done and back together tomorrow since I have somewhere to be at 6 pm,

                        Oh well at least I'm not paying an arm and a leg to have someone else do it

                        thanks for the tip I'll look for your reply.
                        '82 Xj1100j

                        "Ride for the Son"

                        < )) ><

                        John

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                        • LoserShoes
                          XSive Maximus
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 524
                          • Bangor Maine

                          #13
                          Depends on how bad it is. Sometimes just penetrating oil ( ie. Liquid Wrench ) and cleaning with a paper towel or Scotch Brite will do it.

                          Anymore then that will require some sort of abrasive. Some fine wet or dry sandpaper will remove the rust, but also a bit of the cylinder, so be careful and use a little penetrating oil as lube for the sandpaper.

                          Steve
                          80 XS1100G Standard - YammerHammer
                          73 Yamaha DT3 - DirtyHairy
                          62 Norton Atlas - AgileFragile (Dunstalled) waiting reassembly
                          Norton Electra - future restore
                          CZ 400 MX'er
                          68 Ducati Scrambler
                          RC Planes and Helis

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                          • TopCatGr58
                            Administrator
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 12650
                            • Portsmouth, Va.

                            #14
                            Hey XJ_John,

                            Mine had a fair amount of pits on the piston, but was clean right around where the rubber O-ring mounts to them. I just used a wire brush on a drill, and cleaned them up nicely. The rubber seal is what seals around the piston and makes it work, so once the base of the piston is cleaned, then you shouldn't have to worry about any little pits in it!
                            T.C.
                            T. C. Gresham
                            81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                            79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                            History shows again and again,
                            How nature points out the folly of men!

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                            • Winterhawk
                              XSive Maximus
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 684
                              • Missouri

                              #15
                              Take the square o-ring out and gently scrape all four side with a single edged razor blade. I smash the end of an aluminum welding rod the width of the groove and put a bend in it.then scrape where the o-ring sits. The aluminum on aluminum works good.
                              "We are often so caught up in our destination that we forget to appreciate the journey." "

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