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  • Can the actual wires on pickup coils be COMPLETELY replaced somehow??

    I'm trying to clean the wiring up on my SG...it's a daily rider for sure, but I'm about to go through the whole thing...top to bottom. I just can't take the way the wiring looks. I'm about to have time to actually give it an external / internal makeover, and I'm trying to start as soon as I can.

    I've had to fix the pickup wires twice now, and I wanted to see if this was an option:

    I have the pickup coils wires from the 79 SF, but didn't know if that was "plug n' play"??? I don't mind swapping out wires / spade connectors from that, into a clip that would fit...just did that for my key-switch, following my tree-clothesline mishap.

    I was hoping that there would be some kind of swap between the 79' coils, or being able to rewire the current ones completely. If not, should I not just get a whole new ignition?? The pickup wires were BAD on this thing...not only because they're old wires and I ride EVERY SINGLE DAY, but because the left side of the bike was the most exposed to the weather in an old garage.

    I don't know how I could justify getting another used pickup coil setup, just because...I'm going to do this all over again.

    Best way to remedy this situation?!

    Eric
    80' XS1100 SG "Dottie"

    79' SF carbs
    MAC 4-1
    K&N Pods
    Accel 3.0 coils
    Tarozzi fork brace
    TC fusebox

    Picture update soon

    http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...psej6wqu9l.jpg


    79' XS1100 SF (parts, will be reborn)

    http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...snfgpozqn.jpeg

  • #2
    Eric, all of the pick-up coils are interchangeable except the XJ1100s so that'd be your best bet if the 'new' coil is better than your old coil.

    You can (question of abilty) use a Dremel or similar tool to open up the entry of the pick-up coil case and expose the wire. It's similar to replacing the old wires in the stock ignition coils but be careful if you decide to try it.

    The wire in the pick-up coil is very, very, fine and if you cut too far into the case or at the wrong spot then you have a very, very, fine paperweight. DAMHIKIJKOK
    -- Scott
    _____

    2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
    1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
    1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
    1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
    1979 XS1100F: parts
    2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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    • #3
      pick up coils

      Go to Rice Paddy motorcycle parts, they have new pulser coils (pick up coils) for around $30
      put something smooooth betwen your legs, XS eleven
      79 F (Blueballs)
      79 SF (Redbutt)
      81 LH (organ donor)
      79 XS 650S (gone to MC heaven)
      76 CB 750 (gone to MC heaven)
      rover has spoken

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      • #4
        Me too

        I replaced the broken coils on my SG with another set from eBay. The 'new' set failed in about 2000 miles.

        So I cut the wires right where they come out of the coils and soldered completely new wire. I held the solder joints in the wire clamps by the coils, so the moving wires are fresh and virgin.



        I feel confident I will be over 90 years old next time they fail
        -Mike
        _________
        '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
        '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
        '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
        '79 XS750SF 17k miles
        '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
        '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
        '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

        Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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        • #5
          Rice paddy

          Just got off the phone with Rice paddy the coils they had were used and are not in stock again until they get another junker in.
          I think your best bet is to replace as much of the fine/very fine wire as you can, at least in the area that moves.
          This wire was hard to find and I had to buy like 3 different colors in a pack, about $20, made for a remote controlled race car.
          I've lots left if you need some ?
          Don'e
          76 XS650 C ROADSTER
          80 XS650 G Special II
          https://ibb.co/album/icbGgF
          80 XS 1100 SG
          81 XS 1100LH/SH DARKHORSE
          https://tinyurl.com/k6nzvtw
          AKA; Don'e, UD, Unca Don'e

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          • #6
            Replacing wires in Ignition Coils

            The wires from the coils to the spark plugs are replaceable. By using a Dremel tool with a carbide router bit one can rout out an area next to the wires exit from the coil. Start about 1/4" to 5/16" from the exit point so as not to get into the area where the water/restraint cap snaps onto the coil.




            Pix 4 shows the completed repair and filling the connection with an clear potting epoxy.
            Dell
            Dell82
            Houston, TX
            82' XJ1100J Maxim "LASERMAX"
            SOLD 86' Kawasaki Voyager XII, 1200cc SOLD
            SOLD 82' CB450SC Nighthawk, FOR SALE SOLD
            SOLD 82' CB450SC Nighthawk, parts bike SOLD

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            • #7
              I am trying to insert four pictures into the reply. Hopefully this will work. They are links to dropbox photos.

              https://www.dropbox.com/s/7tbw2atdc6...pair1.jpg?dl=0
              https://www.dropbox.com/s/08n28kwoh7...pair2.jpg?dl=0
              https://www.dropbox.com/s/m8r6roy1b2...pair3.jpg?dl=0
              https://www.dropbox.com/s/89mtht70nb...pair4.jpg?dl=0
              Dell82
              Houston, TX
              82' XJ1100J Maxim "LASERMAX"
              SOLD 86' Kawasaki Voyager XII, 1200cc SOLD
              SOLD 82' CB450SC Nighthawk, FOR SALE SOLD
              SOLD 82' CB450SC Nighthawk, parts bike SOLD

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              • #8
                Thank you

                Originally posted by Radioguylogs View Post
                I replaced the broken coils on my SG with another set from eBay. The 'new' set failed in about 2000 miles.

                So I cut the wires right where they come out of the coils and soldered completely new wire. I held the solder joints in the wire clamps by the coils, so the moving wires are fresh and virgin.



                I feel confident I will be over 90 years old next time they fail
                I will do this too.
                80 G

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                • #9
                  coils

                  I thought the discussion was about PICK-UP coils.
                  put something smooooth betwen your legs, XS eleven
                  79 F (Blueballs)
                  79 SF (Redbutt)
                  81 LH (organ donor)
                  79 XS 650S (gone to MC heaven)
                  76 CB 750 (gone to MC heaven)
                  rover has spoken

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                  • #10
                    Yamaha J38-85580-20-00 Coil, Pulser; J38855802000

                    from partspak
                    Last edited by rover; 11-11-2017, 05:12 PM.
                    put something smooooth betwen your legs, XS eleven
                    79 F (Blueballs)
                    79 SF (Redbutt)
                    81 LH (organ donor)
                    79 XS 650S (gone to MC heaven)
                    76 CB 750 (gone to MC heaven)
                    rover has spoken

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                    • #11
                      Yamaha J38-85580-20-00 Coil, Pulser; J38855802000

                      Correction: from partspac
                      put something smooooth betwen your legs, XS eleven
                      79 F (Blueballs)
                      79 SF (Redbutt)
                      81 LH (organ donor)
                      79 XS 650S (gone to MC heaven)
                      76 CB 750 (gone to MC heaven)
                      rover has spoken

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                      • #12
                        I looked at silicone rc wires on the web. Can anyone suggest the correct size needed for the pick up coils ? either mm and/or awg .
                        79SF
                        XJ11
                        78E

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                        • #13
                          Suggestion

                          I was really happy with this package:
                          https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LZ4CGXL/ref=biss_dp_t_asn

                          It has all the colors to match the original wires. I studied the old wires and tried to guess the correct wire gauge. I think this choice (20#) was arbitrarily close to the original wires.

                          The only problem with my choice is that you are buying lots of wire you don't immediately need (for $30). You can find smaller packages of the same wire on Amazon, but you won't be able to match the colors.

                          Look for lots of strands and flexible insulation when you make a choice.
                          -Mike
                          _________
                          '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
                          '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
                          '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
                          '79 XS750SF 17k miles
                          '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
                          '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
                          '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

                          Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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                          • #14
                            The 20 AWG recommended by Mike should be more durable than OEM. I believe that may have been 24 AWG. The weak point is where you solder it. I prefer to use an uninsulated butt splice (proper crimp tool) covered by heat shrink tubing.
                            Marty (in Mississippi)
                            XS1100SG
                            XS650SK
                            XS650SH
                            XS650G
                            XS6502F
                            XS650E

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jetmechmarty View Post
                              The 20 AWG recommended by Mike should be more durable than OEM. I believe that may have been 24 AWG. The weak point is where you solder it. I prefer to use an uninsulated butt splice (proper crimp tool) covered by heat shrink tubing.
                              I know this sounds kind of stupid, but on one of mine, I put long enough wires to make loops. This keeps the "kinked angle" at a minimum and the repair has lasted many years. If you do that, make sure there is no rubbing.
                              Skids (Sid Hansen)

                              Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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