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  • #16
    Originally posted by Bonz View Post
    If you cut off the end of the wire at the plug cap and reinsert, you have fresh wire. It's so simple. I would recommend that before buying new wires all around.
    Having never done this required watching a demo on youtube. You are correct that its the easiest thing to do in the debug process. After chopping off 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch, the wire is nice and shiny silver at the cut point. Screwed the clean end back into the cap and twisted until tight.

    Took it out for a drive and I could tell that the stumble is still there. Pulled the plug and #2 is fouled. There is also a fairly strong gas smell when pulling into my driveway. My guess is that #2 carb has something wrong that shoves too much fuel into the cylinder.

    Another item for the group to know is that I removed the YICS bolt a couple of days ago and some dark liquid poured out of the hole. The quantity was a couple of tablespoons. I cleaned out the port and reinstalled the bolt. I am going to remove the bolt again to see if the fluid in the YICS port is an ongoing problem.
    82 XJ1100 - sold
    96 Honda Magna 750 - Girlfriend's bike
    2000 ZRX1100 - sold
    2003 FJR1300 - Silver rocket

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    • #17
      There is raw gasoline in the YICS port. Enough to make a wet spot on a paper shop towel. I cleaned this port two days ago so the raw gasoline is new.

      The oil level was 1/2 quart low. It appears to be burning some oil.
      82 XJ1100 - sold
      96 Honda Magna 750 - Girlfriend's bike
      2000 ZRX1100 - sold
      2003 FJR1300 - Silver rocket

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      • #18
        Sorry if this was covered already, but you might want to compare the amount of fuel from the No 2 float bowl with others.

        Although this has nothing to do with level of fuel in the bowl, I would think that if the pilot air jet or its passage was plugged, the idle circuit fuel supply would be richer. Think of sucking soda from a straw with a hole in it.
        Skids (Sid Hansen)

        Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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        • #19
          Pull the Carbs

          Originally posted by HalfCentury View Post
          There is raw gasoline in the YICS port. Enough to make a wet spot on a paper shop towel. I cleaned this port two days ago so the raw gasoline is new.

          The oil level was 1/2 quart low. It appears to be burning some oil.
          If I may, You need to pull your carbs and clean ALL the passages and reset the float heights before the raw fuel dilutes your crankcase oil which will lead to a spun bearing.

          Also valve shim adjustment is a critical component in the tuning process, 'cause without the engine breathing at max capacity, the carbs can't be tuned to theirs.
          1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
          1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
          1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
          1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
          1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

          Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Schming View Post
            If I may, You need to pull your carbs and clean ALL the passages and reset the float heights before the raw fuel dilutes your crankcase oil which will lead to a spun bearing.

            Also valve shim adjustment is a critical component in the tuning process, 'cause without the engine breathing at max capacity, the carbs can't be tuned to theirs.
            Hello Schming

            Thanks for chiming in. The valve clearances were check, adjusted and re-checked. I have the before and after map of the shims in a notebook.

            I agree that the carbs will have to come off and be looked at. Its a shame that 3 of 4 appear to be good and one is recalcitrant. While I have the tank and carbs off, may as well re-check the valve clearances.

            Do I recall correctly that one of the regular posters had a theory that one of the 4 carbs is the "evil carb"? Was it carb #2?
            82 XJ1100 - sold
            96 Honda Magna 750 - Girlfriend's bike
            2000 ZRX1100 - sold
            2003 FJR1300 - Silver rocket

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            • #21
              Originally posted by HalfCentury View Post
              Hello Schming

              Thanks for chiming in. The valve clearances were check, adjusted and re-checked. I have the before and after map of the shims in a notebook.

              I agree that the carbs will have to come off and be looked at. Its a shame that 3 of 4 appear to be good and one is recalcitrant. While I have the tank and carbs off, may as well re-check the valve clearances.

              Do I recall correctly that one of the regular posters had a theory that one of the 4 carbs is the "evil carb"? Was it carb #2?
              It is carb #3. While bike idling, fuel bowl levels need to be ALL identical at 3mm below bowl mounting surface.
              Last edited by motoman; 06-18-2017, 02:00 PM.
              81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Schming View Post
                If I may, You need to pull your carbs and clean ALL the passages and reset the float heights before the raw fuel dilutes your crankcase oil which will lead to a spun bearing.

                Also valve shim adjustment is a critical component in the tuning process, 'cause without the engine breathing at max capacity, the carbs can't be tuned to theirs.
                Hey Schming, that winking emoticon is reserved for Motoman!!!
                Skids (Sid Hansen)

                Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by skids View Post
                  Hey Schming, that winking emoticon is reserved for Motoman!!!
                  Thanks Sid, but I pretty much just use it if referencing to an issue that I've already resolved a long time ago myself............in hopes it helps someone else.
                  Last edited by motoman; 06-18-2017, 03:30 PM.
                  81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by motoman View Post
                    Thanks Sid, but I pretty much just use it if referencing to an issue that I've already resolved a long time ago myself............in hopes it helps someone else.
                    Greg

                    Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                    ― Albert Einstein

                    80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                    The list changes.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by BA80 View Post
                      No surprise......figured that was comin' from ya'........sooner than later.
                      81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                      • #26
                        If the collective would speculate, what should I look for with a an overly rich carb #2? I am thinking if the air jet is plugged, that could cause a rich condition. Yes? No? What else?
                        82 XJ1100 - sold
                        96 Honda Magna 750 - Girlfriend's bike
                        2000 ZRX1100 - sold
                        2003 FJR1300 - Silver rocket

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by HalfCentury View Post
                          If the collective would speculate, what should I look for with a an overly rich carb #2? I am thinking if the air jet is plugged, that could cause a rich condition. Yes? No? What else?
                          Schming's post #19 would be a good start.
                          81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by motoman View Post
                            Schming's post #19 would be a good start.
                            ok. will do and report back.
                            82 XJ1100 - sold
                            96 Honda Magna 750 - Girlfriend's bike
                            2000 ZRX1100 - sold
                            2003 FJR1300 - Silver rocket

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                            • #29
                              I performed a dry compression test. 130 PSI across all four cylinders. I guess this means that a second appointment with the carbs is in my future. I much prefer a second appointment with the carbs than appointment with the piston rings or valves.
                              82 XJ1100 - sold
                              96 Honda Magna 750 - Girlfriend's bike
                              2000 ZRX1100 - sold
                              2003 FJR1300 - Silver rocket

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                              • #30
                                One more thing. Is your exhaust system in good shape? Strange things can happen when a baffle is shot.
                                Skids (Sid Hansen)

                                Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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