WIX 24933 oil filters with o-rings

[bikerphil]

I use a couple of dabs of strategically placed RTV for those O ring bends that won't sit flat. I do a lot of riding so I change the filter every 9 thou. miles.

[BA80]

I do a lot of riding so I change the filter every 9 thou. miles.

I change mine every oil change (3000 miles) just like my car.

What's an extra 3 - 6 bucks?

[bikerphil]

I have 2 engines with over 100 thou. miles and they don't burn any oil between 3 thou. mile oil changes, no bearing knock, etc. I used to change the filter every time but I found that to be overkill, now I change it every 3 times, works for me, YMMV

[3Phase]

Hey, Phil, 9,000 miles or kilometers?

Yeah, the filters really aren't very big but with a 2,000-mile oil change interval, it's still a little bit much to change it every single time. Unless I do something more stupid than usual, I change the filter every second oil change so it's usually somewhere around 4,000 miles at the most.

As it gets dirty, the pressure drop across the filter will force it into bypass quicker and more often so the oil can flow. It might stay partially in bypass just toolin' down the road and whenever it's in bypass you basically don't have a filter, the oil's just going around it. If you keep clean oil in the sump then going onto bypass really isn't too scary unless someone used RTV to tack the o-ring in place.

RTV? Really? At the filter cup with a 9k filter change interval? What's the name of that old Beatles album? Revolver!

[bikerphil]

Oh you guys worry too much. Just a "dab" of RTV under a small area where the O ring is lifted ain't gonna hurt. Yes, 9000K miles, I'm in Florida, not Canada.

[3Phase]

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Heh, I'm bustin' your chops, man, just don't do a "Deerhunter" with (click) the RTV.

I don't (click) have the patience to wait for RTV to set up, closest I ever tried was contact (click) cement but it had to be (click) too clean to stick the 'ring down so I switched to sticky grease.

[bikerphil]

Yep bro, no problem. Now I see why you bought a case of filters, changing them every 2000K, I think I will at least switch to WIX brand, they are better than the Frams.

[3Phase]

I didn't really like the Fram filter I bought. It didn't look or feel as well made as the OEM filter it was replacing and the box was missing the o-rings too, just like the Yamaha filter. Nope, not doing that again.... Both of those filters' 'missing' o-rings may have been accidental but so far the only consistent and inexpensive -- not cheap! aftermarket replacement that I've found has been the NAPA/WIX filters.

The good book of Yamaha says the oil's supposed to get changed at 4,800km (3,000mi) and the filter every second fill at 9,600km (6,000mi), that's why I asked if you were going by kilometers instead of miles. I use my trusty left foot and the shifter to tell me when to change the oil and when the transmission gets "notchy" then the oil goes bye-bye. With my '80G that good old feeling usually began to happen somewhere around 2,000 miles and I'm really hoping my 'new' XJ11 will do better than that.

Department of, "Just one more thing!" With the constantly decreasing levels of zinc to meet emissions regs even in HDEO I honestly don't know if the additive packs will last for the old factory interval so I can get 6k out of the filters.

I'm seriously starting to look at prices for bulk HDEO before the ZDDP goes away and I have to start riding my skateboard to Wallyworld again.

[bikerphil]

All the Frams I've bought have both the O-rings, I have had some of them that were made in Canada, Taiwan, or China. I still have a few Frams left so that oughta still last me a good while.

[3Phase]

That's actually good to know. It used to be listed as a stock item so the shipping is free to the store but none of the parts houses here keep the filter on the shelf. If I have to order a Fram and it doesn't have o-rings I can make them find them or get my money back and buy another case of WIX.

[TopCatGr58]

Hey Scott,

Years ago when I added the O-ring groove to my SOFA's, I had to source the O-rings to provide them with the plates. I tried to position the Sofa Groove in essentially the same place as the OEM cup groove. I got them from McMaster-Carr.

Here's the specs:

1/8"/0.125"/3.175mm thick 4-5/8"/4.609"ID

Buna-N Oring Hard 70:AS568a / 9452K197 250deg. 25 pk/$9.30...now $7.25

4.609" ID/ .139" thick

The prices may not be exact, but still think they are fairly reasonable for the quantity along with the quantity of rings, even with the ~$8.00 S&H fee.

I didn't need the filter cup bolt O-ring, but I'm sure they(McMaster-Carr) would have them in that size also!

T.C.

[3Phase]

That's not bad, T.C.!

The one and only time I ever bought a Fram it didn't have the o-rings. I didn't have time to argue or try to get another one because it was the day before I was going up north to my first ever XS11 rally in Yosemite, California: Nightmare in Mariposa. Dun-dun-DUN!

We now have a local, relatively new (I keep forgetting it's here) Fastenal outlet. The quantities are lower and the prices are higher than McMaster-Carr but now I know where to send the sales clerk the next time I buy a filter and the o-rings are missing.

[MPittma100]

Wix

This is a very good price for these filters. Wix is one of the best filters available.

All of the oil filters in the case of 12 arrived with o-rings from discountfleetsupply:-

http://www.discountfleetsupply.com/wix24933.html



Saturday, 03 Dec 2016
In Stock
Item #: WIX24933

List Price: $6.05
Our Price: $3.48

[MPittma100]

O-rings

On more than one occasion, I have reused both filter o rings without any problems.

[jetmechmarty]

On more than one occasion, I have reused both filter o rings without any problems.

Usually, that's the case. It sure sucks when it fails. It's certainly not a recommended practice in aviation.