Why not another TIRE Thread! :)

[speedlimit85]

Does anyone get the V rated tires that are built to exceed 130 mph?

[Bonz]

When was the last time an XS1100 went over 130 mph for a sustained period would be my question to the collective? Shinko 230 Tourmaster is rated for 149 mph. Should give you some margin over lesser tires with lesser speed ratings.

[3Phase]

When was the last time an XS1100 went over 130 mph for a sustained period would be my question to the collective?

They don't.

The softer compound for the V rated tire wears out quicker too so you go through more tires than using H rated tires with an appropriate load index.

Shinko 230 Tourmaster is rated for 149 mph. Should give you some margin over lesser tires with lesser speed ratings.

The 230 Tourmaster has a 4-ply rating, not four plys, but [LINK] Shinko lists it as a 4-ply tire on their web site.

For the XS1100 the front and rear tires are only available in the V-rating with load index ratings:

Front
57 @ 507lb (230kg) for the 100/90-19

Rear
73 @ 805lb (365kg) on the 130/90-16
74 @ 827lb (375kg) on the 130/90-17



[LINK] Web Bike World | Motorcycle Tire Speed Ratings, Load Ratings and Tire Size Designations

Even with the H-rated tire, I wouldn't be comfortable hitting much less cruising at 130 MPH on a two or three ply tire with over 500lbs on the front and 800lbs on the rear when you hit ludicrous-speed and go plaid.

[Bonz]

speedlimit85, what are the options for 130 mph H rated tire you are considering based on your question? From what I understand and what 3phase has shared, I don't know what brands or options you have with load ratings that fit the bike.

3phase, The ply rating is simply to put it in terms of when they used old fashion cotton fabric to make tires. Ply rating keeps things consistent across the industry and over time. I don't think the number of plies matters as much as what the equivalent ply rating is along with load capacity in combination.

[speedlimit85]

I need new tires and thanks to this thread, I thought about trying another brand since you are correct that some of my brand loyalty is outdated.
I looked at the Conti go and the Dunlops again. Instead I will try Michelin pilot and they are V rated.

[Bonz]

Nice! Which version of the pilot is that?

[3Phase]

speedlimit85, what are the options for 130 mph H rated tire you are considering based on your question? From what I understand and what 3phase has shared, I don't know what brands or options you have with load ratings that fit the bike.

3phase, The ply rating is simply to put it in terms of when they used old fashion cotton fabric to make tires. Ply rating keeps things consistent across the industry and over time. I don't think the number of plies matters as much as what the equivalent ply rating is along with load capacity in combination.

It matters. They have to print the number of plies and the type on the sidewall.

As for equivalent construction, what would you like for your cords:
Aramid (Kevlar)
Fiberglass
Nylon
Polyester
Rayon
Steel


Some example tires:

Metzeler Lasertec Front 100/90-19 57H
Tread Plies/Materiel: 4 Polyester
Sidewall Plies/Material: 4 Polyester

Metzeler Lasertec Rear 130/90-17 68V (not available in H, only V)
Tread Plies/Material: 4 Nylon
Sidewall Plies/Material: 3 Nylon

Edit:
Michelin Front Pilot Activ 100/90-19 57V
Tread Plies/Material: 3 Polyester
Sidewall Plies/Material: 2 Polyester

Michelin Rear Pilot Activ 130/90-17 V68
Tread Plies/Material: 2 Aramid/ 2 Polyester
Sidewall Plies/Material: 2 Polyester


Bridgestone Front Battleax BT45V 100/90-19 57V
Tread Plies/Material: 2 Polyester/1 Nylon
Sidewall Plies/Material: 2 Polyester

Bridgestone Rear Battlax BT45V 130/90-17 68V
Tread Plies/Material: 3 Nylon
Sidewall Plies/Material: 3 Nylon



Continental Front Conti Ultra TKV11 100/90-19
Tread Plies / Material: 4 Nylon
Sidewall Plies/Material: N/A (You can bet your sweet bippy it'll be printed on the sidewall)

Continental Rear Conti Ultra TKV12 130/90-17 68H
Tread Plies / Material: 4 Nylon
Sidewall Plies/Material: N/A (again....)



Dunlop Front D404 100/90-19 57H
Tread Plies/Material: 3 Nylon
Sidewall Plies/Material: 3 Nylon

Dunlop Rear D404 130/90-17 68H
Tread Plies/Material: 3 Polyester/1 Nylon
Sidewall Plies/Material: 3 Polyester



Kenda Front K657 Challenger 100/90H-19 57H
Tread Plies/Material: 6 Nylon
Sidewall Plies/Material: 6 Nylon

Kenda Rear K657 Challenger 130/90-17 68H
Tread Plies/Material: 6 Nylon
Sidewall Plies/Material: 6 Nylon


I don't have my old Metzeler ME88 or ME880 rear tires handy but they were a genuine 6-ply nylon tire, not 6-ply rated.

[Bonz]

Is not polyester the same thing as nylon?

[3Phase]

Is not polyester the same thing as nylon?

No. Polyester = many esters. It's a synthesized group of esters like alkyd paint is a group of esters.


Nylon vs. Polyester

[CaptonZap]

No. Polyester = many esters. It's a synthesized group of esters like alkyd paint is a group of esters.


Nylon vs. Polyester

Yeah, but you can't use alkyd paint to color ester eggs with.

CZ

[3Phase]

Yeah, but you can't use alkyd paint to color ester eggs with.

CZ

Sure you can but let your little brothers find 'em and eat 'em, especially the really tasty paints with the cool colors that use lead.

[IanDMacDonald]

Sure you can but let your little brothers find 'em and eat 'em, especially the really tasty paints with the cool colors that use lead.

Those Kenda look interesting. I don't think they carry them in a 17" rear though.

I have no tentative plan for the XS yet. Still trying to get the Triumph done.

[3Phase]

Yep, the Kendas are available in a 17" H68, it'll be the next tire for my '80G and probably the 16" H67 version for my XJ too.

~$60 from Dennis Kirk | Kenda Rear K657 Challenger 130/90H-17

[IanDMacDonald]

Yep, the Kendas are available in a 17" H68, it'll be the next tire for my '80G and probably the 16" H67 version for my XJ too.

~$60 from Dennis Kirk | Kenda Rear K657 Challenger 130/90H-17

Nice. I got the Michelins still in plastic, waiting for mount.

[motoman]

Sounds fairly complicated........think my Venturer will just stick with its existing Conti Go's.