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  • #1

    Why not another TIRE Thread! :)

    Gotta get them changed over the Winter. Thinking about the Shinkos if I'm going to do any XS Rallies.

    Have Metzeler Lasertecs on there now, and HATE them! Loved the ME's I had on prior to.

    Just looking to see if anyone's opinions have changed for the XS11 Standard? 17 in the rear.
    1979 XS1100F
    2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.
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  • #2
    Tod and Harry like the Shinko's on the rear, they seem mushy to me.
    Greg

    Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

    ― Albert Einstein

    80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

    The list changes.

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    • #3
      Hi Brian,
      I have Shinko 712 on the back of mine. I liked it for my level of riding in the twisties of XSSouthEast. Not a long life tire. dbBrian has Shinko Tour230 on for the last few months and is happy but still early to tell what wear will be like.
      Phil
      1981 XS1100 H Venturer ( Addie)
      1983 XJ 650 Maxim
      2004 Kawasaki Concours. ( Black Bear)

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      • #4
        That's an issue I had with the 712 also, not much for longevity. And Tourmasters were even worse in that department.
        Last edited by BA80; 11-15-2016, 11:30 AM.
        Greg

        Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

        ― Albert Einstein

        80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

        The list changes.

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        • #5
          I don't know if I'm too keen on going expensive again, if they are not going to last any longer than the Shinko's. Does not seem like the Metzeler's lasted very long.
          1979 XS1100F
          2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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          • #6
            Go to a 16" rear and you can get Dunlop Elite 3's. They wear and handle great.
            Greg

            Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

            ― Albert Einstein

            80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

            The list changes.

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            • #7
              I like the 230 on the front, seems to cup less than the 712. I like the 110/19 better, the 100 looks as narrow as a bicycle tire. I'll use either the 230 or the 712 (130/17) on the rear. Seems like the 230 runs just a little further than the 712, but costs a little more. YMMV
              Last edited by bikerphil; 11-15-2016, 04:27 PM.
              2H7 (79) owned since '89
              3H3 owned since '06

              "If it ain't broke, modify it"

              ☮

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              • #8
                Mixed results

                I put a pair of the Shinko 712s on my Bagger project.

                The front tire had a wobble, so I sent it back and replaced it with a Bridgestone Spitfire. I imagine the wobble was just a rare quality defect.

                I kept the Shinko on the back and I am quite satisfied with it after 2,000 miles.
                -Mike
                _________
                '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
                '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
                '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
                '79 XS750SF 17k miles
                '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
                '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
                '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

                Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Radioguylogs View Post
                  I put a pair of the Shinko 712s on my Bagger project.

                  The front tire had a wobble . . .
                  I noticed this happens a lot. Was looking at tires last night on M-S.com, and might try some Michelin Pilot Activs.
                  1979 XS1100F
                  2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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                  • #10
                    Just saw this thread tonight. Yep, as MaximPhil said, I have the 230's and put over 5,000 km on them since June. I measured tread depth when new. Shown in my intro thread "78e new proud owner".

                    Seeing that today was likely the last ride of the season, I'll go out and re-measure the tread depth this weekend and post it for you. Visually there is a barely perceptible flattening on the rear, but we put a lot of straight road miles on before reaching anything twisty around here, and I like to goose the throttle lots.

                    As far as performance, I am quite satisfied with them. Been in al combinations of hot, cold, heavy rain / wet, dry, and never a slip or uncomfortable feel from the tires. For reference, I purchased the bike end of May, rode a bit on the 8 year old tires before putting on the Shinko 230's. The old rear was a Spitfire, and the front was, well, something really crappy with a ridge that made the bike wander. I rode like I was on a hockey rink. Just so you know my comparison. The change to Shinkos was a real treat.
                    Last edited by dbbrian; 11-18-2016, 08:03 PM.
                    '78 XS1100E (the newest bike I've ever owned)
                    '74 CB350F1 (under restoration)
                    '72 RT2 MX360 (gone but not forgotten)

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                    • #11
                      Good deal! Btw, I'll probs be restoring a '74 CB350F this winter. Candy Apple Red.
                      1979 XS1100F
                      2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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                      • #12
                        CB350F help

                        Ian - for the 350F, hopefully you know about sohc4.com. Awesome site like this one, but on steroids due to the number of bikes produced - very active site.

                        BTW, the 74 stock colour was called Glory Blue Black, with gold pinstripes. A one time only use of that colour for any year and model of all the Hondas.

                        But the red will be awesome!

                        Below is a good parts source I fouind among many you will find on that site, however, stay away from aftermarket brass parts for the carbs. Jetsrus.com have the keihin jets for cheap. I got into my barbs last winter


                        http://4into1.com/honda-cb350f1-350-...rt=bestselling

                        I hope to see some pictures of the progress on this site (other bikes) or on the other.

                        Brian
                        Last edited by dbbrian; 11-19-2016, 04:49 PM.
                        '78 XS1100E (the newest bike I've ever owned)
                        '74 CB350F1 (under restoration)
                        '72 RT2 MX360 (gone but not forgotten)

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                        • #13
                          Might be a '73 then. I'd have to look at the title. I have quite a few of them CB's.
                          1979 XS1100F
                          2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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                          • #14
                            I am running a set of 230 Tour Masters on my 1980 SG. Fantastic tires for the first thousand miles or so. No perceptible wear.

                            Plain and simple I went with the 230 because it has a higher load rating than the 712. My bike with me on it in full gear and bags is going to be pushing 950-1000 pounds.

                            Exceptions that have been noted by others notwithstanding, the 230 should have a longer tread life. I have done general internet reading and that seems to be the case.
                            Howard

                            ZRX1200

                            BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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                            • #15
                              My experience has been with any Shinko that 3K is about as long as they go for me on the rear. Fronts maybe 2 or 3 times that.
                              Greg

                              Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                              ― Albert Einstein

                              80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                              The list changes.

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