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  • leggman1
    Truly XSive
    • Oct 2016
    • 130
    • Winchester, KY

    #1

    rear gear fill plug

    I did a complete oil change on my bike tonight and it all went good except for the fact that I had to use a chisel to break loose the rear gear fill plug. I thought the middle gear fill plug was going to strip as well but it broke loose.
    I would like to replace the rear gear fill plug with a new one preferably one of a better design.
    I know this must be a common problem so a better way has got to be out there.
    Thanks again.
    Dave
    81 XS11
  • cajun31
    Moderator
    • Oct 2003
    • 1799
    • Brandon, MS

    #2
    buy a new one

    http://www.partzilla.com/parts/searc...AFT/parts.html

    When you install it make sure you use anti seize on the threads. You are right though, everyone has problems removing these after they have been on with out the anti seize.
    2 - 80 LGs bought one new
    81 LH
    02 FXSTB Nighttrain
    22 FLTRK Road Glide Limited
    Jim

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    • motoman
      Master of XSology
      • Aug 2005
      • 8413
      • Grand Junction, Colorado

      #3
      Problem with the difficult removal is the thin stainless steel washer.......going against aluminium housings. A hex head shouldered replacement from your local Ace or Tru-Valu specialty drawers is the better option for both middle drive and final drive, IMO.
      81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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      • TADracer
        XS-XJ Guru
        • May 2006
        • 1417
        • Kenner, Louisiana USA

        #4
        Or

        Or you could put a copper crush washer from a used spark plug on. Helps removal later on.
        Mike Giroir
        79 XS-1100 Special

        Once you un-can a can of worms, the only way to re-can them is with a bigger can.

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        • motoman
          Master of XSology
          • Aug 2005
          • 8413
          • Grand Junction, Colorado

          #5
          Originally posted by TADracer
          Or you could put a copper crush washer from a used spark plug on. Helps removal later on.
          With a snug fit on plug threads, just a plain ole' copper washer works good and seals. O.D. of a replacement washer may be a problem, as the final drive fill location casting has bit of a recess. As previously stated, a hexed, shouldered meteric fill plug is the best bet.
          Last edited by motoman; 10-31-2016, 03:02 PM.
          81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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          • leggman1
            Truly XSive
            • Oct 2016
            • 130
            • Winchester, KY

            #6
            I found just what I needed at my local NAPA auto parts store. Part number
            704-1920. Its a M14 x 1.5 drain plug that comes with a nylon washer for about 3 bucks each.
            I did have to turn down the flange a bit for the plug that goes into the rear gear housing but only a little.

            81 XS11

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            • TADracer
              XS-XJ Guru
              • May 2006
              • 1417
              • Kenner, Louisiana USA

              #7
              Nice replacement!
              Mike Giroir
              79 XS-1100 Special

              Once you un-can a can of worms, the only way to re-can them is with a bigger can.

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              • bikerphil
                Master of XSology
                • Jan 2008
                • 8643
                • South Flori-DUH

                #8
                Is there enough room to get a socket or wrench on this?

                2H7 (79) owned since '89
                3H3 owned since '06

                "If it ain't broke, modify it"

                ☮

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                • motoman
                  Master of XSology
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 8413
                  • Grand Junction, Colorado

                  #9
                  Originally posted by bikerphil
                  Is there enough room to get a socket or wrench on this?

                  Socket or box-end wrench work just fine for rmoval/installation.
                  BTW, that's exactly the fill plug I reccomended.
                  81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                  • leggman1
                    Truly XSive
                    • Oct 2016
                    • 130
                    • Winchester, KY

                    #10
                    I used a 17mm open end wrench. It doesn't have to be real tight. I also used a little never seez on the threads just for insurance.
                    81 XS11

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                    • mlew
                      XStremely XSive
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 226
                      • Apex , NC

                      #11
                      They are available also with a 14mm hex. I did the same thing several years ago. I got mine at Advance auto in the oil drain plug section.
                      Slow down and enjoy life. If you are in that much of a hurry, you should have left eariler.
                      Current rides:
                      80 XS1100SG
                      82 JX1100
                      83 Venture Royale
                      86 V-Max

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                      • skids
                        XS-XJ Super Guru
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 5050
                        • Florissant, CO, USA

                        #12
                        The nylon washer makes all the difference. I worried about the heat, but after several years, the washer is A-OK. I recommend them for the drain plug as well.
                        Skids (Sid Hansen)

                        Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                        • HalfCentury
                          XStremely XSive
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 408
                          • Burlington NC

                          #13
                          A school of thought is to never disturb the middle drain or fill plugs. The vast majority of the gear fluid is accessed by draining and filling the rear.
                          82 XJ1100 - sold
                          96 Honda Magna 750 - Girlfriend's bike
                          2000 ZRX1100 - sold
                          2003 FJR1300 - Silver rocket

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                          • skids
                            XS-XJ Super Guru
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 5050
                            • Florissant, CO, USA

                            #14
                            Originally posted by skids
                            The nylon washer makes all the difference. I worried about the heat, but after several years, the washer is A-OK. I recommend them for the drain plug as well.
                            I mean for the crankcase oil...
                            Skids (Sid Hansen)

                            Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                            • skids
                              XS-XJ Super Guru
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 5050
                              • Florissant, CO, USA

                              #15
                              Originally posted by HalfCentury
                              A school of thought is to never disturb the middle drain or fill plugs. The vast majority of the gear fluid is accessed by draining and filling the rear.
                              They are separate oils and each must be periodically changed.
                              Skids (Sid Hansen)

                              Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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