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  • Godzilla Resurrection: Re-build thread

    Hey guys and gals,

    As I have been eluding to in my posts, I was tasked at XSSE 2015 by Brent Hoovestol to get Godzilla back in shape. Here's the back story....in case you're bored and want something to read!

    I bought him in '83 from a fellow sailor while stationed in Japan, he had bought it 2 years earlier, it's an 81SH, but never registered it, just parked it on base and fired it up once a month and rode it around the yard a bit. After 2 years, he's ready to transfer back to the states, but has 2 kids, wife, and he wasn't a very big guy, was used to his Honda 500, thought he'd hurt/kill himself back in the USA, so he sold it to me for the same price he paid, ~$3,200, it had 17 miles on it! I brought it back to the USA....funny how it was MADE in the USA, then shipped to JAPAN for the Navy Exchange system, and then got shipped back to the USA!

    I rode it for some 8 years, '84 to '92 until the 1st and 2nd gear malady reared it's ugly head. The Odometer broke at ~900 miles, just kept using the tripometer for fuel refills. Due to my ignorance I dumped the OEM exhausts for a black Mac 4-1 system trying to get more performance and sound. Fell on hard financial times shortly after getting out of the Navy in '86, car broke badly, no $$ to fix, had to ride/commute for work on the bike 70 miles a day 365 for 1.5 years. The first month I got into a cage encounter that destroyed the front end/forks and such, and that's when I put the 4" longer front forks on it wanting a little more of a chopper style. Unbeknownst to me, the frame got bent directly back at the steering neck, so it reduced the trail from 6" to 2", really quickened/lightened up the steering. I attributed it to the longer forks....again my ignorance showing...and the dealer bike shop that performed the repairs also didn't notice the frame bend! As stated, rode it for 8 years till it broke. Parked it, covered it with tarp...no garage. Sat outside for 8 years, rusted, corroded, rotted.

    Finally got back on financial feet, new house with garage, and then my father passed in 2000, kinda hit me that life is indeed too short. So...threw the bike in the garage and with SWMBO's blessing went to rebuild it. Cylinders had gotten rusted and so that's why I did the 1179 Wiseco Big Bore job, but did the rest myself, including engine tear down, rebuild, new forks, seat, bars, tires, paint, etc. Dropped about $2500 into it but got it road worthy in 2001, just rode locally that first year to get used to riding again after being off for 8 years. The next I started attending XS11.com Rallies along the east coast. Rode the bike the first few years, but with advancing age and back/neck surgeries, and the worrysome wife, I built a single trailer to allow to continue attending the Rallies and not be so wore out just getting to them, as well as my yearly trek from SE Va. all the way to Enterprise, Ala. to visit my mom, and then back up to Northern Ga. for the XSSE event.

    I've done a variety of other MODS in the past 16 years, ie. XJ tank, homebuilt forward controls, diamond plate saddle bags/trunk, Spin-On Oil Filter Adapter, HID headlight Mod, LED light conversion, custom paint job, Automotive mini race ALT mod, Digital/electronic speedo/tach cluster, dual piston caliper front brake mod, DynaTek Coils, manual CCT mod. But he's now looking quite worn and in need of a good refreshing. Couldn't do it during this past winter, no spare money and garage isn't climate controlled. Just received a decent Bonu$ for 30 years at work, so I've started accumulating the parts needed for this re-rebuld.

    Here's the "SHORT" list of what I plan on doing over the next few months hoping to be done in time for XSSE 2016. This list is open to amendment !

    1.) Swap bent frame for good one, swap wire harness/check/clean
    2.) Weld additional braces to strengthen/stiffen frame, paint.
    3.) Replace engine mounts with Polyurethane
    4.) Replace cam chain, check/set valve clearances
    5.) Replace leaking crankshaft seals
    6.) Freshen up engine appearance/clean/polish/paint/new SS bolts.
    7.) Replace Steering head bearings/races in new frame
    8.) Mod swingarm to allow more room for the 140/90-16 tires I like to run without rubbing
    9.) Replace front and rear wheel bearings/seals
    10.) Freshen up wheels, polish/paint, and replace valve stems
    11.) Redesign or remove forward controls
    12.) Replace driver foot pegs with XV1100 type
    13.) Repaint tank/fenders/side covers.
    14.) Install new aftermarket petcocks/adapter plates.
    15.) Replace old carb intake mounts/new oval filters
    16.) Install Barnett clutch springs/remove extra steel plate
    17.) Rebuild rear MC/Caliper, new pads
    18.) Recondition handlebar switches/replace clutch/throttle cables
    19.) Mount New Single seat, reposition saddlebags/trunk not so rearward.
    20.) Replace HID headlight with LED type/add LED aux DRL lighting
    21.) Replace Mirrors, clutch/brake levers, rubber covers
    22.) Possibly build/add 2nd fork brace to upper tubes
    23.) Possibly build new exhaust system?

    Have already ordered some $300.00 worth of parts, more to acquire. Cleaned out space in the garage to allow room to work.

    Photos and updates to follow as I progress.

    T.C.
    T. C. Gresham
    81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
    79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
    History shows again and again,
    How nature points out the folly of men!

  • #2
    Godzilla

    It's kind of funny. I was reading one of my restoration lists earlier tonight, with the hope of reducing it down to something shorter than the original version of the King James Bible. After checking off the the work I had gotten done on it, I realized even that effort was a small ripple in a VERY large pond! Then I read your post. I will admit to being somewhat jealous of some of the things you can do. Kudos"s to you though! If I had a bike for that long, and went through all the things you did with it, I would be compelled to revive it. I look forward to further updates on Godzillas's resurrection. Good luck!

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    • #3
      Looking forward to seeing this rebuild thread. Please post some before pictures and some in-progress pictures.
      82 XJ1100 - sold
      96 Honda Magna 750 - Girlfriend's bike
      2000 ZRX1100 - sold
      2003 FJR1300 - Silver rocket

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      • #4
        I, too, look forward to your progress and the process of getting your old companion back to ship-shape! We're pullin' for you and your SH.
        79 F
        Previously owned: (among others)
        1969 Harley- Davidson Rapido 125 (Aermacchi)
        1967 Suzuki X6 Hustler
        1973 Suzuki TM 125
        1979 XS1100 F
        2005 Kaw. Vulcan VN800
        1991 BMW K75

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        • #5
          encouragement.

          Originally posted by MarkD View Post
          I, too, look forward to your progress and the process of getting your old companion back to ship-shape! We're pullin' for you and your SH.
          Hi TC,
          I am looking forward to seeing you and Godzilla. I do really like some of the mods you have done. Paint and extended forks with sporty steering geometry; greater ground clearance and lean angle. Seems to handle very well when I have been trying to keep up with you. I believe that your set up is better than stock for someone with a Loooong inseam. Glad to hear of the time, money, and interest coming together. That is a good bike, well worth some TLC. The horsepower & torque graph from the dyno run you had done would also be of interest to anyone following this thread.

          Good luck wrenching.
          It is a great big beautiful world out there
          Brent in GA
          Yamaha 80XS1100SG, HD Firefighter Special Edition 02 Road King, Honda 450 rat, 08 Buell 1125R tour modified, 83 goldwing parts bike gone-traded for XJ1100, 2014 HD electraglide police

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          • #6
            Sounds good, TC! Only thing I wonder about though is the fork brace on the uppers you mentioned. I'm not sure there's any room for one. On a hard brake, they'll compress almost up to the nameplate in front.

            Congrats on 30 years at your job!
            Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

            You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

            Current bikes:
            '06 Suzuki DR650
            *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
            '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
            '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
            '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
            '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
            '81 XS1100 Special
            '81 YZ250
            '80 XS850 Special
            '80 XR100
            *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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            • #7
              Bike PORN!

              Hey folks,

              I know how we all love photos, so I've collected quite a few to show the history of Godzilla, hope they all fit within this one post, otherwise I will have to split it across a couple of posts....the site's software sometimes glitches when trying to put/post too many in one post!?

              I got the bike "NEW" in 1983, rode it for a couple of years while still in the NAVY, then got a civ. job, had to commute on it, and here's what happened the first month of commuting. Note the smashed/crushed windshield that I impaled against as I flew thru my windscreen and across her hood!
              This was also the incident that bent the steering neck/frame unbeknownst to me and the bike shop for some 20 years.

              1986




              You can see how I had already had to spray paint the headers due to rusting, and this incident was IIRC when I put on the 4-1 pipes along with the 4" longer fork tubes. I don't have any photos from '86 thru 92 or later due to too early for computers, all of my real photos are in boxes in the garage, so we'll just have to start with when I did my 1st rebuild in 2000-01.

              2002: Shortly after the 1st rebuild/1179 BB, etc.! Rattle can paint job, softside saddlebags, Aux lights and such.



              2003




              2006: SS Brake Lines, Pods, MikesCoils, SOFA, windshield, CenterStand
              Did the Velocity Stack Mod, started making the SOFA's myself, replaced the broken windscreen with one I cut/bent myself, extended my centerstand due to the extra height from the extra long forks....had extended my sidestand back in '86 after the repair and first putting on the forks. Also the crappy BLACK MikesXS High output coils....they didn't die until 4 years later.









              A few photos comparing a STOCK specials forks, my4" over, and then another Xsive's 6" over. But you can clearly see how mine are on a different ANGLE than the others, I think it was this year, or the next while at XS SE that BikerPhil or Gene showed me where my frame was bent!?




              2007: Did the Swingarm stiffening mod; Add the Trunk bag.



              2008: Did the custom PAINT job.







              Okay, got the error, too many photos, only allowed 30, had 43, so splitting the post! Continued next post.
              T.C.
              T. C. Gresham
              81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
              79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
              History shows again and again,
              How nature points out the folly of men!

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              • #8
                Continued Bike Porn!

                2009 Just riding



                2011: Auto Race 1 Wire ALT Mod, HID headlight Mod, Swapped in DYNACOILS for dead MikesXS.




                2013: Did the dual piston Caliper Mod on my special=PITA; and the Manual CCT Mod



                2014: Added the Digital Speedo/tach gauge cluster; SuperBright LED Aux Lights; Fiamm Horns; and ruined tank paintjob from overfilling and heat expansion on the trailer.






                Here's the bent frame/neck views, along with what it should look like, the donor frame. There's a 79 frame behind it, just ignore it.




                Tod, there is some 4+ inches of fork below the triple tree that never gets touched by the sliders, and that's where I'm thinking about putting an additional brace...way away from the range of the sliders travel, but still far enough away from the TT that I think it may help in the stability??

                Okay, gotta get out there and clean up the garage to make more room so I can start working on this project, have already received quite a few of the parts I've ordered.

                T.C.
                T. C. Gresham
                81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                History shows again and again,
                How nature points out the folly of men!

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                • #9
                  Cool review.
                  79 F full cruiser, stainless brake lines, spade fuses, Accel coils, modded air box w/larger velocity stacks, 750 FD.
                  79 SF parts bike.

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                  • #10
                    Greg

                    Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                    ― Albert Einstein

                    80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                    The list changes.

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                    • #11
                      Great history and pics...and a great read...cant wait to see the progression...
                      1980 XS650G Special-Two
                      1993 Honda ST1100

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                      • #12
                        I'm thinking about putting an additional brace...way away from the range of the sliders travel, but still far enough away from the TT that I think it may help in the stability
                        The chopper guys call this a 'tweak bar'.
                        2H7 (79)
                        3H3

                        "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                        • #13
                          Return of Godzilla.

                          Originally posted by TopCatGr58 View Post
                          Here's the "SHORT" list of what I plan on doing over the next few months hoping to be done in time for XSSE 2016. This list is open to amendment !
                          T.C.
                          Hey TC.
                          Love the history of the bike. I bet there aren't many around here driving the same XS11 for 33+ years. We're going to have to talk some more at XSSE '16 as Nancy & I were both stationed at NAS Norfolk until late '86.

                          I'm looking forward to watching your progress with the rebuild. I've performed a bunch of the stuff on your list to my DUCK, Mayberry DUCK, and DEAD DUCK and in about the same amount of time you have remaining until XSSE. But, you're gonna have to get moving to get it all done in time!

                          I noticed you mentioned: XV1100 foot pegs and DRL's. I really want to see those mods. I upgraded to XJ1100 pegs as I like those better than stock XS and I'm playing around with some Chinese LEDs trying to make ME more visible. I'll be watching that activity on GODZILLA closely.

                          I have a some spare stuff so if there is ANYTHING you need let me know. If I got it, it's yours for the asking! You've provided a TON of help to me with my 11's and I sure hope I can help you somehow.

                          Sincerely,
                          KURT

                          GO NAVY!
                          Sailors have more fun!
                          Kurt Boehringer
                          Peachtree City, Georgia

                          1970 - CT70K0 - Mini-Trail
                          1978 - SR500 - Thumper
                          1979 - CT70H - Mini-Trail
                          1979 - XS1100SF - Pensacola
                          1980 - XS850SG - Rocky
                          1980 - XS1100SG - The Ugly Duck
                          1980 - XS1100SG - Mayberry Duck
                          1981 - XS1100SH - DEAD Duck Cafe'
                          1981 - XJ550 Maxim - Nancy's Mini-Max
                          1982 - XJ650 SECA - Hurricane
                          1986 - FJ1200 - Georgia Big Red
                          1992 - FZR1000 - Genesis
                          2016 - FJR1300A - Montgomery

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                          • #14
                            Just to show that I'm actually working on this thing!

                            Hey again folks,

                            Okay, first update, got started working on it today. Wanted to address the steering neck bearings on the donor frame! When I was perusing the PNM website, I saw a "tool" for removing the bearings....a modified piece of PIPE for $30.00!!

                            SO..I thought I'd try to borrow the design and customize it for our bike!?

                            First a view down the steering neck, notice just the 2 small recesses barely showing the lip edge of the lower race!



                            This is the view looking UP the neck, the upper race has a more prominent LIP 360 degrees around!


                            So...I picked some Galvanized 1" ID pipe, which was 1-3/8" OD, 12" long to be able to reach well beyond the neck length. ~$9.00 at LOWES, the black pipe was the same price, opted for Galvanized just to prevent rust!? I don't know if the BLACK stuff is any stronger.?


                            I cut the slots down the side, and then cut the threaded section off, note at an angle so that when the ends are spread, the edge would be at a better angle into the race edge!


                            I used an AXE head to spread the end, to about 47mm. Then you put the small end down into the neck and tap the pipe to compress the end until it pops down below the upper neck race edge.


                            Then, I used the HEAT GUN technique to heat up the neck/bearing, and then spritzed the bearing with spray cleaner to help cool and shrink it a bit. Then started hitting the bottom end with a 2lb peen/hammer, and the race started moving with just a few hits.


                            After a few more hits the race was essentially up out of the neck.



                            So...then I thought about the lower race, there is very little lip edge to grab, and the steering neck tube sticks out into the neck area. SO I had to modify the pipe piece with the grinder/cutting wheel to leave 2 sections ~7mm wide and about 1.5 inches long. I then hammered the prongs against my vice/anvil to bend them outward a bit more to allow them to have a better angle into the race lips!






                            Now, this is where I would LOVE to say that I had success! But I didn't. The pipe material was just TOO SOFT for the small impact area of only ~14mm total, and so when I would hammer against the race....even after doing the heating/cooling process, but the metal just shaved off an edge of the tips, I would then take it out, regrind the surface/ends with the cutting wheel to put a new sharp edge, spritz it with brake cleaner to cool it, and try again. It did get the race to move a little ~ 0.5mm, but that was it, just kept chipping off the sharp edge of the end of the prongs!?

                            So...I had to resort to the dremmel, cutting diagonal sections, it's a little difficult to not cut into the frame/neck portion, but finally got it out a little UGLY, but it shouldn't cause any problem/weakness once the new race is installed.


                            I didn't try using my welder because I haven't switched out the sleeve yet from last year when the aluminum wire got stuck in it!

                            Thanks everyone for the comments, encouragement. I'm hoping to be able to make some teachable moments from this process as well. Stay Tuned!

                            T.C.
                            T. C. Gresham
                            81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                            79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                            History shows again and again,
                            How nature points out the folly of men!

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                            • #15
                              T.C.

                              Your MacGyver solutions are a pleasure to observe. Much like Kurt's Harley muffler magic. The history of your bike and pictures are awesome to read/see. Thanks for sharing!
                              82 XJ1100 - sold
                              96 Honda Magna 750 - Girlfriend's bike
                              2000 ZRX1100 - sold
                              2003 FJR1300 - Silver rocket

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