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    Does anyone have an idea how to fix the stress cracks on the lower half and the upper ABS plastic. The brown and gold flaked paint also need to find a color mach poss: paint no. Finally does any one still make the replacement windshield?

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    I used a flattened piece of PVC pipe (Cut in half, then use boiling water and some pressure to flatten it out) and glued it inside with pipe cement (the same stuff you use to seal plumbing joints). Made a surprisingly strong bond!

    Got pictures of that Bates fairing?
    1980 XS850SG - Sold
    1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
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    • #3
      I had a little incident a few years back when I loaded my bike into a trailer when moving and found the trailer door about 1/2 too short for the windshield. I just recently took the fairing off to do some electrical work and found some significant damage because if it. I had previously used a plastic welder and some abs sticks to repair the cracks and will probably do that again. I am also going to use a clotges iron and some stainless steel screen mesh and melt the mesh into the plastic before repainting. Mesh I'll only be on the bottom, around the mounting flange and up about 1 inch, also on the bottom of the inside.
      Nathan
      KD9ARL

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      OEM Exhaust
      ATK Fork Brace
      LED Dash lights
      Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

      Green Monster Coils
      SS Brake Lines
      Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

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      • #4
        Plasti-Mend. It's sorta spendy but it really works on PVC. I had to repair a BADLY busted up PVC holding tank on my RV. Worked AWESOME! I ordered the "quart" kit and bought some screen at the hardware store. It's really nasty stuff so use it OUTSIDE. It actually melts the PVC back together.

        The rebuilt tank in questions. No more leaks! woohoo!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Diskman01 View Post
          Plasti-Mend. It's sorta spendy but it really works on PVC. I had to repair a BADLY busted up PVC holding tank on my RV. Worked AWESOME! I ordered the "quart" kit and bought some screen at the hardware store. It's really nasty stuff so use it OUTSIDE. It actually melts the PVC back together.

          The rebuilt tank in questions. No more leaks! woohoo!

          Nice to hear about a product that worked well on the holding tank!........ BTW,RV needs a re-paint tho'.
          Last edited by motoman; 05-24-2016, 03:48 PM.
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          • #6
            Heres what worked for me. Cracked, OEM Yamaha bags and stress cracks in Windjammer. Get a can of ABS glue, should be easy find at Home Depot/Lowes. Make sure it says for ABS. Then procure some fiberglass cloth or mat depending on how big the break is and if it will show. Rough up the cracked/damaged area with 3M pad. Clean well with lacquer thinner or acetone (put cigarette out BEFORE this step). Cut the cloth or mat to fit the area. Slather the area with cement and lay patch material over it. Soak the patch with the cement and let dry. Patched can then be sanded and refinished. IF you still have cracks showing on the "see me" side, and want to repair those. Get some ABS plastic from your local hobby shop. Use a file and make a fine dust out it. When you have enough dust, mix the ABS cement till the mixture is thick enough to work, kinda like bondo. Prep the surface, cleaning the crack out very well. Slather the plastic/glue mixture on it and let dry/cure overnight. The fix should be hard or harder than the parent plastic and can be finished with normal sanding, primer and paint. Remember, Bondo or fiberglass resin will not sick for long to ABS.
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            • #7
              Webbcraft, That is basically what I did to fill in the old speaker holes that the PO had put in my fairing. Although I used several layers of the fiberglass mat to help fill in the depth of the holes.
              Nathan
              KD9ARL

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              1978 XS1100E
              K&N Filter
              #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
              OEM Exhaust
              ATK Fork Brace
              LED Dash lights
              Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

              Green Monster Coils
              SS Brake Lines
              Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

              In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

              Theodore Roosevelt

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              • #8
                I made a structural repair to a faring. I used snipped-up fiberglass matting and two-part epoxy resin glue. The mounting corner of the faring had broken and separated! This is a messy process (wear gloves) but three years later, it held perfectly. You want to make sure that your mounting rubbers produce even stress.
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                Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by motoman View Post
                  Nice to hear about a product that worked well on the holding tank!........ BTW,RV needs a re-paint tho'.
                  Bah! Paint is overrated. It's all about the character anyways. And what 900 bux will get ya these days.

                  1) Fire up Internet Explorer
                  2) http://www.yahoo.com
                  3) type "www.mapquest.com" into the Yahoo search page.
                  4) go about day as VP managing multi-million dollar financial contracts.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Diskman01 View Post
                    Bah! Paint is overrated. It's all about the character anyways. And what 900 bux will get ya these days.

                    Hi diskman,
                    Pretty cool retro RV. For $900 does anything work
                    Just what you need another ancient project of rework and repair
                    Hope you have lots of fun with it.
                    Phil
                    1981 XS1100 H Venturer ( Addie)
                    1983 XJ 650 Maxim
                    2004 Kawasaki Concours. ( Black Bear)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by skids View Post
                      I made a structural repair to a faring. I used snipped-up fiberglass matting and two-part epoxy resin glue. The mounting corner of the faring had broken and separated! This is a messy process (wear gloves) but three years later, it held perfectly. You want to make sure that your mounting rubbers produce even stress.
                      ....Whewwww..............with breathing THAT product combination, doubt you much cared how long it took to set-up.
                      81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Diskman01 View Post
                        Bah! Paint is overrated. It's all about the character anyways. And what 900 bux will get ya these days.

                        .........yup.........even gots dual AC.
                        81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MaximPhil View Post
                          Hi diskman,
                          Pretty cool retro RV. For $900 does anything work
                          Just what you need another ancient project of rework and repair
                          Hope you have lots of fun with it.
                          Phil
                          1975 Dodge Travco 2+2 "DodgeMahal" model. Was the bees-knees in 1975.
                          Everything was replaced about 12 years ago by the retired PO. His son inherited it and he sold it to me due to lack of interest in it. Dodge 440. Brake work was #1. Everything is working now. Plan to go somewhere this summer. Will drag along the XS11 for sure where ever I go.
                          1) Fire up Internet Explorer
                          2) http://www.yahoo.com
                          3) type "www.mapquest.com" into the Yahoo search page.
                          4) go about day as VP managing multi-million dollar financial contracts.

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                          • #14
                            That looks like a GREAT RV! I like the tail end design and stripes.

                            Happy motoring
                            '78 XS1100E (the newest bike I've ever owned)
                            '74 CB350F1 (under restoration)
                            '72 RT2 MX360 (gone but not forgotten)

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