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  • MadHatter4119
    Truly XSive
    • Nov 2014
    • 137
    • Baltimore, MD.

    #76
    Oh those...Don't the plug into the front of the air filter...That's where I got
    them going to...the crank case vent is in between the carb vents on the air
    filter housing...???????
    79 XS 1100 Special "Basket Case"

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    • motoman
      Master of XSology
      • Aug 2005
      • 8413
      • Grand Junction, Colorado

      #77
      Originally posted by BA80
      Why only the right side then Brant? 3 & 4 have nothing in common except fuel delivery.
      A secondary electrical issue IS the common demoninator, even though 3 &4 are not associated directly, plug ignition wise. Fairly sure your following my direction headed.
      Last edited by motoman; 04-07-2016, 06:56 PM.
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      • BA80
        Doctor of XSology
        • Oct 2010
        • 9980
        • Tulsa, Ok

        #78
        That makes NO sense Brant. 3 & 4 are on different coils, different secondary ignition systems.
        Greg

        Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

        ― Albert Einstein

        80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

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        • MadHatter4119
          Truly XSive
          • Nov 2014
          • 137
          • Baltimore, MD.

          #79
          If it's electrical what do I check...I lost spark to 2&3 replaced TCI...The pipes are getting hot now...but running bad...popping , black smoke and
          flame shooting out the right muffler , won't idle...???? Thanks
          79 XS 1100 Special "Basket Case"

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          • motoman
            Master of XSology
            • Aug 2005
            • 8413
            • Grand Junction, Colorado

            #80
            Originally posted by BA80
            That makes NO sense Brant. 3 & 4 are on different coils, different secondary ignition systems.
            Sorry, but makes perfect sense. Secndary ignition ELECTRICAL is the starting point for process of elimination BEFORE attacking the carbs.
            81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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            • BA80
              Doctor of XSology
              • Oct 2010
              • 9980
              • Tulsa, Ok

              #81
              Sounds to me like raw gas getting into the muffler. Pull the plugs out of 3 and 4. See if 1 or both are wet.
              Greg

              Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

              ― Albert Einstein

              80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

              The list changes.

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              • BA80
                Doctor of XSology
                • Oct 2010
                • 9980
                • Tulsa, Ok

                #82
                Originally posted by motoman
                Sorry, but makes perfect sense. Secndary ignition ELECTRICAL is the starting point for process of elimination BEFORE attacking the carbs.
                Everything is electrical with you Brant, even my restricted mufflers.
                Greg

                Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                ― Albert Einstein

                80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                The list changes.

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                • MadHatter4119
                  Truly XSive
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 137
                  • Baltimore, MD.

                  #83
                  Will do tomorrow...I'm not smelling any fuel...
                  79 XS 1100 Special "Basket Case"

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                  • motoman
                    Master of XSology
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 8413
                    • Grand Junction, Colorado

                    #84
                    Originally posted by MadHatter4119
                    If it's electrical what do I check...I lost spark to 2&3 replaced TCI...The pipes are getting hot now...but running bad...popping , black smoke and
                    flame shooting out the right muffler , won't idle...???? Thanks
                    Your gonna have to quit guessing and use your multi-meter and check that output voltages are same and equal to battery output voltage.......preferably 12v minimum. Key on.....check battery voltage first. Then, key on......voltage TO both coils. That would be a good start, and report back the findings. If voltage TO coils is less than battery voltage, removing, disassembling and cleaning of kill switch contacts WOULD be your next step. If no improvement voltage wise after that, internal cleaning of ignition switch contacts would be next.
                    Last edited by motoman; 04-07-2016, 07:15 PM.
                    81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                    • skids
                      XS-XJ Super Guru
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 5047
                      • Florissant, CO, USA

                      #85
                      Originally posted by motoman
                      A secondary electrical issue IS the common demoninator, even though 3 &4 are not associated directly, plug ignition wise. Fairly sure your following my direction headed.
                      What does that mean?
                      Skids (Sid Hansen)

                      Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                      • skids
                        XS-XJ Super Guru
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 5047
                        • Florissant, CO, USA

                        #86
                        Originally posted by BA80
                        Sounds to me like raw gas getting into the muffler. Pull the plugs out of 3 and 4. See if 1 or both are wet.
                        That is a good call I would say...
                        Skids (Sid Hansen)

                        Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                        • MadHatter4119
                          Truly XSive
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 137
                          • Baltimore, MD.

                          #87
                          So Greg...what do I do if the plugs are wet...you thinking floats or what...this was real sudden...it ran good yesterday when I started it
                          ...today I put longer gas lines on...right petcock feeding carbs 1&2
                          and left petcock feeding 3&4...changed it from left petcock feeding 1
                          and 2...right petcock feeding 3&4...Every time i tried to move the gas
                          tank...the lines prevented me from moving the tank any...with them
                          this way...I have some play and can raise the tank a little...
                          79 XS 1100 Special "Basket Case"

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                          • BA80
                            Doctor of XSology
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 9980
                            • Tulsa, Ok

                            #88
                            Do you have the airbox on it? AND, is the octy still on it?
                            Greg

                            Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                            ― Albert Einstein

                            80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                            The list changes.

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                            • BA80
                              Doctor of XSology
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 9980
                              • Tulsa, Ok

                              #89
                              Originally posted by MadHatter4119
                              Oh those...Don't the plug into the front of the air filter...That's where I got
                              them going to...the crank case vent is in between the carb vents on the air
                              filter housing...???????
                              Yes, that's where they go but if they are plugged ANYWHERE the carbs will flood.
                              Greg

                              Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                              ― Albert Einstein

                              80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                              The list changes.

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                              • MadHatter4119
                                Truly XSive
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 137
                                • Baltimore, MD.

                                #90
                                I'll pull those vent lines tomorrow and stick a piece of metal clothes hanger to see if they are open...From what I remember...on the air box...those vent line holes are rather small...if they are blocked...it would have to be at the air box...
                                79 XS 1100 Special "Basket Case"

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