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  • #16
    Look at how this air box is in this picture. This is how it has to be to get the carbs in and out. You CANNOT get the box out or back in with the carbs installed.

    Remove the bottom and the filter and position it as shown. You see ther's plenty of room to get the carbs in and out with it like that.

    Greg

    Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

    ― Albert Einstein

    80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

    The list changes.

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    • #17
      A picture is worth a thousand cuss words that will never be said
      1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
      1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
      1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
      1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
      1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

      Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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      • #18
        Sometimes the words work pretty well when you're trying to get a set of gears back into a 600 lb motorcycle hanging from the rafters of your garage at 3am the day you need to leave for a rally 900 miles away.

        Don't ask me how I know that.
        Greg

        Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

        ― Albert Einstein

        80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

        The list changes.

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        • #19
          Yea...wasn't no way I was going to get the air box in with the carbs mounted...removed carbs...put both the carbs & air box within the frame...than I mounted the carbs without any issue...getting the air box
          lined up is another story...once I figured out the center bracket goes over
          the mounting bracket...I thought I had it made...yea right...every time I
          get one of the end carbs in the air box boot...one side or the other would
          be 1/2" or more out from the carbs and it wouldn't move towards the carbs
          when I tried to push the air box towards the carbs...I'm wondering if I have
          the boots in the air box in the right position...on the mounting seam there
          is a little nipple...I assume that needs to be lined up with the spot on the air
          box housing...I have all those nipples at 12 o'clock if you was facing the air
          box boots or pointing up towards the tank...The question is...do I have them
          in the right position or should the nipple be pointing straight down towards
          the ground...I'll be lucky if anybody understands a word of this...lol
          79 XS 1100 Special "Basket Case"

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          • #20
            If the boots have been removed at some time they may have been reinstalled in the wrong order. The 2 center ones are straight but the outer ones are slightly curved towards the center. Looking at one I have here it looks like those nipples do go to the top when the boots are in correctly.



            Greg

            Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

            ― Albert Einstein

            80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

            The list changes.

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            • #21
              You are the man...You got a picture for everything...I love it...Stuff goes over my head when I read others instructions at times...with the aide of a picture its clears it up a whole lot...Thank you Thank you Thank you...I'm
              hoping to get this box taken care of tomorrow...but like they say...you want
              to here God laugh...Make plans !!!
              79 XS 1100 Special "Basket Case"

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              • #22
                Originally posted by MadHatter4119 View Post
                You got a picture for everything
                I take them as I go. My photobucket account is overflowing....
                Greg

                Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                ― Albert Einstein

                80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                The list changes.

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                • #23
                  Thanks

                  Learn something new every day

                  Thanks Greg
                  82 XJ1100J
                  81 Venturer
                  Newly acquired Aches N Pains collection

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                  • #24
                    Like they say...if your not willing to listen and learn...your a hard head...
                    Even at 67yrs old...I'm relearning things I forgot and I'm ok with it...
                    79 XS 1100 Special "Basket Case"

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                    • #25
                      I just reinstalled the carbs on my '81 yesterday. The lips on the boots tend to fold over. I started with the left side, got it clamped in place, then fixed the trapped/folded lips working a screw driver around between the carb and the boot. Also, the breather hose was getting in the way, so I disconnected it from the air box and put it back after the carbs were on. Good luck, stick with it and it'll get there eventually.
                      82J · 81SH · 79SF Fire Damage · 78E · 79F Parts Bike · 04 Buell Blast
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                      • #26
                        It takes everything in place to get them on my bike but over time I have learnt not to do it when its cold that old rubber just does not flex well. The other thing CaptonZap said was Vaseline but any slippery substance works and the slicker the better. If you try sliding things in a dry hole there can be pain and blood involved.

                        Do not try to put carbs on box and force them into engine mounts if your mounts are old, you can crack them to where you have a vacuum leak.
                        To fix the problem one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed.

                        Rodan
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khm6...liHntN91DHjHiS
                        1980 G Silverbird
                        Original Yamaha Fairfing and Bags
                        1198 Overbore kit
                        Grizzly 660 ACCT
                        Barnett Clutch Springs
                        R1 Clutch Fiber Plates
                        122.5 Main Jets
                        ACCT Mod
                        Mac 4-2 Flare Tips
                        Antivibe Bar ends
                        Rear trunk add-on
                        http://s1184.photobucket.com/albums/z329/viperron1/

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                        • #27
                          I'm getting ready to go out for round 2...If I try the couple ways explained
                          above doesn't work straight away...I'm trying the video way...mount the carbs
                          in the air box first...than mount the carbs...I like the look of the air box over
                          the pod look...but hands down...the pods make life a lot easier...My budget is
                          at its limit...Them cheap pods fall apart so easy...K&N's I would need to take a
                          loan out...A friend gave me a set (2) K&N'S...One pod fits on 2 carbs...but due
                          to the tanks petcocks location...I can't use them...the petcocks hit the pods and that's without the fuel line connected...they are rather big...there isn't any
                          part number on them that I could see...I haven't seen anybody using them on
                          here or youtube on their XS's...Until I find a good set of pod...the stock air box
                          will be fine...
                          79 XS 1100 Special "Basket Case"

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                          • #28
                            http://yamahazone.biz/airfilters.html

                            You'll need a crankcase vent filter and a filter for the carb vents too.
                            Last edited by BA80; 03-27-2016, 09:42 AM.
                            Greg

                            Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                            ― Albert Einstein

                            80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                            The list changes.

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                            • #29
                              Crankcase vent.......



                              Carb vent......

                              Greg

                              Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                              ― Albert Einstein

                              80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                              The list changes.

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                              • #30
                                When I get a few extra bucks...I bookmarked that page...Do you have those
                                pods...? Do you oil them like K&N's...?
                                79 XS 1100 Special "Basket Case"

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