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  • kristo.thaler@gmail.com
    XSive
    • Feb 2016
    • 19
    • Milwaukee, WI.

    #1

    Ignition fuse blow outs and main fuse connections to..... nothing?

    Hey everyone,
    Still tackling electrical issues. My ignition fuse keeps blowing out, no idea why. I opened up a bundle of wires that was taped up and found that all the wires were connected to themselves or nothing at all. 4 of the wires come from the main fuse; 2 black and 2 red. They connect to nothing. The connections that should come from there are hooked up to a relay instead.
    82 XJ11
  • skids
    XS-XJ Super Guru
    • Jul 2002
    • 5049
    • Florissant, CO, USA

    #2
    Time to look for another wire loom/harness. Or, you could try and decipher a wiring diagram. The question is, why on earth did the PO do that?
    Skids (Sid Hansen)

    Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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    • MaximPhil
      XS-XJ Super Guru
      • May 2004
      • 4119
      • Mississauga, ON CANADA

      #3
      Hi Kristo,
      Welcome to the forum. Most of the real problems with these XS/XJ bikes are either Carburettor or Electrical in nature. The second gear is weak in the early models but I think fixed by 82.
      May I suggest you ask ALL your electrical questions in your post http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45189

      that way there is continuity and you will certainly gets lots of help sorting it out.
      I have been and continue to struggle with electrical stuff on mine too so you are not alone.
      Previous owners (PO) are blamed when things have been butchered and changed from stock.
      Learn how to post pictures to your thread. As the guru's will ask to see what you are dealing with.
      Plan to return to as close to stock as possible or even the knowledgeable people will be in the dark if not dealing with stock.
      Ensure your battery is in good condition and fully charged or your test results will be meaningless. If in doubt replace it.
      Upgrade your fuse panel to the modern spade type fuses. (cheap and easy)
      Those glass fuses and holders are unreliable.
      Find and CLEAN ALL the ground connections.
      Until you have done the above you are just taking stabs in the dark and chasing your tail.

      Phil
      1981 XS1100 H Venturer ( Addie)
      1983 XJ 650 Maxim
      2004 Kawasaki Concours. ( Black Bear)

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      • BA80
        Doctor of XSology
        • Oct 2010
        • 9980
        • Tulsa, Ok

        #4
        Originally posted by skids
        Time to look for another wire loom/harness. Or, you could try and decipher a wiring diagram. The question is, why on earth did the PO do that?
        To UPGRADE skids. The Yammi engineers didn't have a clue when they built a bike so good that they had to stop building it. We need POs to hack things up so the rest of us will have spare parts on ebay.
        Greg

        Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

        ― Albert Einstein

        80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

        The list changes.

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        • madmax-im
          Master of XSology
          • Sep 2007
          • 6751
          • Southern Comfort...Wendell NC

          #5
          Originally posted by MaximPhil
          Hi Kristo,
          Welcome to the forum. The second gear is weak in the early models but I think fixed by 82.
          May I suggest you ask ALL your electrical questions in your post http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45189

          that way there is continuity and you will certainly gets lots of help sorting it out.
          I have been and continue to struggle with electrical stuff on mine too so you are not alone.
          Previous owners (PO) are blamed when things have been butchered and changed from stock.
          Learn how to post pictures to your thread. As the guru's will ask to see what you are dealing with.
          Plan to return to as close to stock as possible or even the knowledgeable people will be in the dark if not dealing with stock.
          Ensure your battery is in good condition and fully charged or your test results will be meaningless. If in doubt replace it.
          Upgrade your fuse panel to the modern spade type fuses. (cheap and easy)
          Those glass fuses and holders are unreliable.
          Find and CLEAN ALL the ground connections.
          Until you have done the above you are just taking stabs in the dark and chasing your tail.

          Phil
          Not so unfortunately...my XJ1100 had the endemic 2nd gear failure...
          1980 XS650G Special-Two
          1993 Honda ST1100

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          • skids
            XS-XJ Super Guru
            • Jul 2002
            • 5049
            • Florissant, CO, USA

            #6
            Originally posted by BA80
            To UPGRADE skids. The Yammi engineers didn't have a clue when they built a bike so good that they had to stop building it. We need POs to hack things up so the rest of us will have spare parts on ebay.
            The horror!
            Skids (Sid Hansen)

            Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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            • donebysunday
              XS-XJ Guru
              • Oct 2012
              • 1737
              • New Berlin, Wi.

              #7
              Do you know anyone with the same bike so you can compare wiring ?

              Originally posted by kristo.thaler@gmail.com
              Hey everyone,
              Still tackling electrical issues. My ignition fuse keeps blowing out, no idea why. I opened up a bundle of wires that was taped up and found that all the wires were connected to themselves or nothing at all. 4 of the wires come from the main fuse; 2 black and 2 red. They connect to nothing. The connections that should come from there are hooked up to a relay instead.
              76 XS650 C ROADSTER
              80 XS650 G Special II
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              80 XS 1100 SG
              81 XS 1100LH/SH DARKHORSE
              https://tinyurl.com/k6nzvtw
              AKA; Don'e, UD, Unca Don'e

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              • fredintoon
                Master of XSology
                • Mar 2004
                • 6795
                • Saskatoon SK

                #8
                Originally posted by kristo.thaler@gmail.com
                Hey everyone,
                Still tackling electrical issues. My ignition fuse keeps blowing out, no idea why. I opened up a bundle of wires that was taped up and found that all the wires were connected to themselves or nothing at all. 4 of the wires come from the main fuse; 2 black and 2 red. They connect to nothing. The connections that should come from there are hooked up to a relay instead.
                Hi kristo,
                relays are a good thing. If they are used correctly.
                What they do is allow the bike's switches to only handle the relays' small operating current while the relay switches the component's higher current.
                Your bike's starter relay is the best example.
                Mind you, the additional relays your dreaded PO has added does leave you out in left field for troubleshooting.
                Fred Hill, S'toon
                XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                "The Flying Pumpkin"

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