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  • Anyone tried these?

    https://www.fumotooildrainvalve.com/

    I'm sure we would need to thread in an adapter to account for the height or perhaps they make a different one which could be threaded straight in. Either way, I be getting these on my cages.
    mack
    79 XS 1100 SF Special
    HERMES
    original owner
    http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

    81 XS 1100 LH MNS
    SPICA
    http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

    78 XS 11E
    IOTA
    https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
    https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



    Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
    Frankford, Ont, Canada
    613-398-6186

  • #2
    I was intrigued by it, until I thought of the knocking my engine made when that valves faips. I like it, but I need more piece of mind.
    1979 XS1100F
    2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by IanDMacDonald View Post
      I was intrigued by it, until I thought of the knocking my engine made when that valves faips. I like it, but I need more piece of mind.
      +1!..............they are just an overpriced pivoting ball valve. You couldn't even run fast enough to give me one............but, as they say, 'to each his own. ' that hot oil will eventually weep past that ball pivot.
      81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by mack View Post
        https://www.fumotooildrainvalve.com/

        I'm sure we would need to thread in an adapter to account for the height or perhaps they make a different one which could be threaded straight in. Either way, I be getting these on my cages.
        Hi Mack,
        Like you say not sure you can just thread it in to the XS drain hole hidden up in the 1/2 tunnel. They have certainly solved the usual problem by having the correct male thread. Even in a car application I would be concerned about accidental opening. ie rock flies up and hits the handle at just the correct angle to open the valve. it is only a 1/4 turn to full open after all.

        Phil
        1981 XS1100 H Venturer ( Addie)
        1983 XJ 650 Maxim
        2004 Kawasaki Concours. ( Black Bear)

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        • #5
          Hey Mack,

          Looked at their site a little closer. Also verified our plug size, 14mm x 1.5 pitch.

          Here's the one they have in that size! it's their Model F106. This one doesn't have a fitting for a hose,and so the oil would be pouring out against the filter cup....unless you took it off first...which wouldn't matter since the oil stays in the cup no matter if you drain the oil pan first or not...so you still get to experience the mess of dripping oil from the cup!?

          https://www.fumotooildrainvalve.com/...-14mm-1-5.html

          This one has a short nippled to attach a drain hose:
          https://www.fumotooildrainvalve.com/...-14mm-1-5.html

          From the description, the lever is held in a locking recess so it can't easily get knocked OPEN, you have to pull/lift the lever up out of the recess before you can turn it open. But they also offer an optional LOCKING CLIP to position onto/above the lever to further keep it from being accidentally unlocked!

          I like the idea. Another option would be to tap and thread it into the SIDE of the oil pan away from the filter cup.

          Brant, they've been made since 1976, and here's a blurb from the website about whose installed them commercially!
          Trusted by Major Vehicle Makers and Industries

          In Japan, the Fumoto Engine Oil Drain Valve has achieved "Genuine Parts" status by 6 major motor vehicle manufacturers: Toyota, Nissan, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Subaru and Isuzu.

          In the United States, the Fumoto Valve has been installed at factory level on some vehicles and equipment made by Ford, Kohler, Freightliner, Caterpillar, JLG, GEHL, Ingersoll-Rand, Sullair, Toyota, Case, Magnetek, Timberjack, Lincoln Electric, Vermeer, Baldor, Terex, Deutz, Phaser Marine Generator.
          T.C.
          T. C. Gresham
          81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
          79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
          History shows again and again,
          How nature points out the folly of men!

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          • #6
            I installed one on a boat engine I use to have. It sure made oil changing much easier and cleaner. I had the one with the nipple and would attach a hose and run it through the bilge drain to a pan. No more spilled oil in the boat. Can't say if it will work that well on a XS.
            Slow down and enjoy life. If you are in that much of a hurry, you should have left eariler.
            Current rides:
            80 XS1100SG
            82 JX1100
            83 Venture Royale
            86 V-Max

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TopCatGr58 View Post
              Hey Mack,

              Looked at their site a little closer. Also verified our plug size, 14mm x 1.5 pitch.

              Here's the one they have in that size! it's their Model F106. This one doesn't have a fitting for a hose,and so the oil would be pouring out against the filter cup....unless you took it off first...which wouldn't matter since the oil stays in the cup no matter if you drain the oil pan first or not...so you still get to experience the mess of dripping oil from the cup!?

              https://www.fumotooildrainvalve.com/...-14mm-1-5.html

              This one has a short nippled to attach a drain hose:
              https://www.fumotooildrainvalve.com/...-14mm-1-5.html

              From the description, the lever is held in a locking recess so it can't easily get knocked OPEN, you have to pull/lift the lever up out of the recess before you can turn it open. But they also offer an optional LOCKING CLIP to position onto/above the lever to further keep it from being accidentally unlocked!

              I like the idea. Another option would be to tap and thread it into the SIDE of the oil pan away from the filter cup.

              Brant, they've been made since 1976, and here's a blurb from the website about whose installed them commercially!


              T.C.
              Thaks T.C............have been aware of them since then, but just never have had nerve enough to try them.
              81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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              • #8
                Cages

                One of my cages is a dodge 4x4. I'm going to put one on it. Lots of room to work under it but I've always hated the sleeve full of oil thing.
                mack
                79 XS 1100 SF Special
                HERMES
                original owner
                http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

                81 XS 1100 LH MNS
                SPICA
                http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

                78 XS 11E
                IOTA
                https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
                https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



                Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
                Frankford, Ont, Canada
                613-398-6186

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mack View Post
                  One of my cages is a dodge 4x4. I'm going to put one on it. Lots of room to work under it but I've always hated the sleeve full of oil thing.
                  Hey, just gotta' be quick Mack. Least I gotta be droppin' the oil out of my Ford 7.3L diesel(14qts and a five gallon bucket).
                  81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                  • #10
                    No way...

                    ...that is gonna fit in the XS's oil pan recess:



                    but I'd like one on my F150
                    1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
                    1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
                    1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
                    1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
                    1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

                    Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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                    • #11
                      Ssssssssssssssssssssssslllllllllllllllllllllllllll lllllllllooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww wwwwww............
                      Greg

                      Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                      ― Albert Einstein

                      80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                      The list changes.

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                      • #12
                        Hey Schming,

                        They offer a 1" long adapter/extension for pans with recessed plugs!


                        Only $6.50 extra.

                        T.C.

                        I meant to post an image of the valve with the drain nipple.


                        Hey Greg, we know you're a little "slow", but we'll wait for you!

                        With the valve, you can get the oil warmed up before draining to help it flow faster without having to get the hot oil on you.
                        T. C. Gresham
                        81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                        79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                        History shows again and again,
                        How nature points out the folly of men!

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                        • #13
                          Yes Way, there ya go !!!

                          Originally posted by TopCatGr58 View Post
                          Hey Schming,

                          They offer a 1" long adapter/extension for pans with recessed plugs!


                          Only $6.50 extra.

                          T.C.

                          I meant to post an image of the valve with the drain nipple.


                          Hey Greg, we know you're a little "slow", but we'll wait for you!

                          With the valve, you can get the oil warmed up before draining to help it flow faster without having to get the hot oil on you.
                          Whaaat. . .who doesn't warm their "Earl" before drainage ?
                          1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
                          1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
                          1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
                          1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
                          1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

                          Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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                          • #14
                            After reading

                            The information on their web site I ordered one for my Toyota.
                            No fuss, no muss and changes should take less time now because there's no pre and post cleanup prep required and I can drain the oil straight into gallon milk jugs instead of the oil pan.

                            I liked the idea immediately when I saw it because I'm all about lazy which means doing it the smart easy way.
                            79 SF & 80 LG MNS
                            73 & 74 RD 350's
                            73 Honda CL 450
                            Graveyard - '81 XS850 Special

                            All of my bikes are projects, maybe one day I'll have them running.

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                            • #15
                              I wonder

                              if with the extension it would clear the recess but bind on the cup.
                              mack
                              79 XS 1100 SF Special
                              HERMES
                              original owner
                              http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

                              81 XS 1100 LH MNS
                              SPICA
                              http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

                              78 XS 11E
                              IOTA
                              https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
                              https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



                              Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
                              Frankford, Ont, Canada
                              613-398-6186

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