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  • #31
    Here's my thing with XS clutches. The biggest PITA in the whole process is usually getting the old gasket off on the motor side. Sometimes you can get lucky and the old gasket can be reused. I got lucky with my brothers G this past summer that way. And then again, sometimes you can diddle-flock around with 'em for hours getting all the little pieces off and prepping the surface. And it's a lot easier to do with the basket out.

    If you grease the new gasket, and it's not in too long, you can probably remove the cover again without damaging it if you find you need frictions after a spring change. But even if the gasket survives you'll still wind up having to deal with that star plate twice. That's two opportunities to break that little sucker, and it will break if you don't treat it right.

    You can get a set of friction plates on Amazon for $39, including the shipping. And the additional work to install them when you've already got the basket exposed is hardly worth mentioning.

    To me $40 isn't worth the potential aggravation of having to do the same job twice. Not to mention the peace of mind of knowing what's in your clutch. If $40 means more to you, then you have the option of trying to get by on the cheap. Just be aware that what appears to be the cheap way on the front end doesn't always wind up being the cheap way on the back end.
    I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

    '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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    • #32
      Originally posted by dbeardslee View Post
      Here's my thing with XS clutches. The biggest PITA in the whole process is usually getting the old gasket off on the motor side. Sometimes you can get lucky and the old gasket can be reused. I got lucky with my brothers G this past summer that way. And then again, sometimes you can diddle-flock around with 'em for hours getting all the little pieces off and prepping the surface. And it's a lot easier to do with the basket out.

      If you grease the new gasket, and it's not in too long, you can probably remove the cover again without damaging it if you find you need frictions after a spring change. But even if the gasket survives you'll still wind up having to deal with that star plate twice. That's two opportunities to break that little sucker, and it will break if you don't treat it right.

      You can get a set of friction plates on Amazon for $39, including the shipping. And the additional work to install them when you've already got the basket exposed is hardly worth mentioning.

      To me $40 isn't worth the potential aggravation of having to do the same job twice. Not to mention the peace of mind of knowing what's in your clutch. If $40 means more to you, then you have the option of trying to get by on the cheap. Just be aware that what appears to be the cheap way on the front end doesn't always wind up being the cheap way on the back end.
      I have never had a gasket on my clutch cover, ThreeBond 1194 only. That goes for all the other engine covers except the valve cover. Doesn't leak a drop.
      Greg

      Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

      ― Albert Einstein

      80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

      The list changes.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by BA80 View Post
        I have never had a gasket on my clutch cover, ThreeBond 1194 only. That goes for all the other engine covers except the valve cover. Doesn't leak a drop.
        ........goes for Permatex brand of silicone in Ultra Grey also. Using it in place of pan gasket, shifter cover gasket and clutch cover gasket have never had so much as a weep. They have all held fine with no weep goin' on for some 8yrs. now. Kinda ironic, as I do have new OEM gaskets still in a yellow folder for all the pre-mentioned locations. Sorry, have NEVER been very fond of Yammys Three Bond associated with any of their numberings code.......and have used them all decades ago.....lesson learned. Sorry.....I just cringe everytime that numbering and name pop up on here!
        81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by motoman View Post
          ........Sorry, have NEVER been very fond of Yammys Three Bond associated with any of their numberings code.......and have used them all decades ago.....lesson learned. Sorry.....I just cringe everytime that numbering and name pop up on here!

          Yamabond is Yamaha, ThreeBond is a brand itself, 1194 is a formula of ThreeBond that is semi hardening. Harder than silicone but softer than Permatex Form-A-Gasket.

          Cringe away Brant, I even use ThreeBond 1194 on some automotive applications that call for silicone. Never had an issue. I swear by it.
          Greg

          Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

          ― Albert Einstein

          80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

          The list changes.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by BA80 View Post
            Yamabond is Yamaha, ThreeBond is a brand itself, 1194 is a formula of ThreeBond that is semi hardening. Harder than silicone but softer than Permatex Form-A-Gasket.

            Cringe away Brant, I even use ThreeBond 1194 on some automotive applications that call for silicone. Never had an issue. I swear by it.
            Nice.......must work better in Tulsa than here. Could be the altitude.
            81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by motoman View Post
              Nice.......must work better in Tulsa than here. Could be the altitude.
              Or the attitude.
              Greg

              Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

              ― Albert Einstein

              80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

              The list changes.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by BA80 View Post
                Or the attitude.
                Right after I entered that, I somehow knew THAT was coming in response.
                81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                • #38
                  I just saw another thread that immediately reminded me of this one - How do you get clutch cover off when glued on. I'll stick with gaskets. I figure if they're good enough for the folks who designed the motor, they're good enough for me.
                  I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

                  '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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                  • #39
                    Three Bond Liquid Gasket 1194 TB1194

                    Thanks for reminding me I needed to get a new tube Greg.
                    $12.45 and free shipping off Ebay.
                    79 SF & 80 LG MNS
                    73 & 74 RD 350's
                    73 Honda CL 450
                    Graveyard - '81 XS850 Special

                    All of my bikes are projects, maybe one day I'll have them running.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Gmac View Post
                      Thanks for reminding me I needed to get a new tube Greg.
                      $12.45 and free shipping off Ebay.
                      Yup, I have one tube in my tools at home and one in my carry along tools.

                      About the same price as ONE gasket and can be used repeatedly over several years on the road and off.

                      As essential as zip ties and duct tape.
                      Greg

                      Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                      ― Albert Einstein

                      80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                      The list changes.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by adelii View Post
                        Now that the carb issues are all fixed on bike i realized that the bike clutch slips after 6k rpm. I have to let go of the throttle then try again. Is there an adjustment? Or are the clutch pads fried? Tge bike has about 29,000 miles.


                        anybody have issues like this?


                        my brother had a bike that did the same thing, a more modern bike, sv1000 and he just had to change the oil viscosity and the problem went away. i hope its something simple.
                        Refer to my post #13 adelii. That round inspection cover just falls off after reoving the screws that hold it in place. That cover also has a slot in bottom for any weeping moisture to wick its way out.
                        81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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