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  • #31
    Everyone, READ post #1 carefully BEFORE you throw another guess out there. Most particularly statements #1 & #2.
    Greg

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    ― Albert Einstein

    80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

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    • #32
      I have been following and I have been expecting that something mechanical is jammed downstream of the clutch. I don't have any specific ideas, though.
      -Mike
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      '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
      '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
      '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
      '79 XS750SF 17k miles
      '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Radioguylogs View Post
        I have been following and I have been expecting that something mechanical is jammed downstream of the clutch. I don't have any specific ideas, though.
        THANK YOU. Someone that gets it.

        He says the rear wheel turns fine in neutral so that would seem to rule out the FD and MD. Pretty much has to be something amiss in the transmission seems to me.
        Greg

        Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

        ― Albert Einstein

        80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

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        • #34
          Thanks everybody.

          Finally got time to try your suggestions yesterday and she's running like a champ. I have a nice gentle downhill coming out of the garage. Got a little speed up, popped the clutch and (after a couple of trys) she broke free. Need to run her out for a while as she still has a little clutch shudder but I'm really happy with how she's running given how long she sat.

          Aches n Pains
          Doug
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          • #35
            Originally posted by BA80 View Post
            Like it may be going into 2 gears at once.
            +1 That's what I was thinking.
            79 F full cruiser, stainless brake lines, spade fuses, Accel coils, modded air box w/larger velocity stacks, 750 FD.
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            • #36
              Seems like it was nothing more sinister than the clutch plates gummed up after being stood up for awhile. Glad you got it sorted
              Rob
              XS Eleven SF
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Aches n Pains View Post
                My bike has been sitting for a year and I'm having clutch problems. I assume the clutch plates are just stuck together. Spent quite a bit of time searching the site and am still confused.

                Symptoms

                1. On center stand, the bike starts nicely in neutral, warms up well and idles down nicely.

                2. When I try to put it in gear and let out the clutch she stalls. Wheel does not turn. Even if I blip the throttle when letting out the clutch.

                3. I have tried putting it in second or third gear and it stalls there also.

                4. There is plenty of oil in the engine.


                What am I doing wrong? I would expect the clutch plates to break free.

                Hate the thought of pulling the clutch plate.

                Thanks in advance

                Aches n Pains (Doug)
                This particular statement makes absolutely no sense if all it was is the clutch plates stuck. It should have not even gone into gear with the engine running without making a hellacious noise
                and the wheel should have most definitely moved.
                Last edited by BA80; 11-27-2015, 04:51 PM.
                Greg

                Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                ― Albert Einstein

                80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

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                • #38
                  Ok, just because I like to understand things. The clutch plates and friction rings are stacked to provide enough surface friction to move the bike. If my clutch plates were frozen together would they not still transfer the output to the rear tire as you slowly release the clutch lever to apply the final force to the stack of clutch plates? A Standard car clutch is only one friction plate.
                  The next is could I not start the motorcycle in gear while on the center stand allowing the back tire to move freely? Have done this on a bike with a broken clutch cable.
                  Just trying to improve my knowledge.
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                  • #39
                    If the clutch wouldn't release..........the clutch wouldn't release. Pulling the clutch lever in would have no effect whatsoever, like with a broken cable. Slow, fast, sideways or upside down.
                    Greg

                    Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                    ― Albert Einstein

                    80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

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                    • #40
                      I agree. Thats why I mentioned starting it in gear on the center stand. If it was a stuck stack the starter should have enough force to rotate the suspended rear wheel.
                      81 LH in process
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by BA80 View Post
                        try to turn it over in gear with the clutch ENGAGED. If it is mechanical the engine won't turn when the starter engages.

                        Clear as mud?
                        Something like this?
                        Greg

                        Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                        ― Albert Einstein

                        80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

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                        • #42
                          Yep. I guess I lost that in the thread.
                          81 LH in process
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                          • #43
                            Wow Greg them mechanics of the XS11 have majic smoke in them just like the electronics.
                            To fix the problem one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed.

                            Rodan
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Ranger_xs1100 View Post
                              Just thinking out loud here....Is there a kick stand safety switch that could cause that problem?
                              Not on either of those three listed.
                              81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by motoman View Post
                                Not on either of those three listed.
                                Thanks, That must have been my Virago XV1100 that I was thinking about,.
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