Clutch problem

[Bikes]

If I read your first post right, you can pull the clutch lever and put it in gear but when you release the lever, it stalls...is that correct?

[Aches n Pains]

Yep. Runs great in neutral on the center stand. Can rotate the rear tire so I know the brake isn't locked. Put it in first or second and release the clutch and she stalls immediately.

[MPittma100]

Stalls

Yep. Runs great in neutral on the center stand. Can rotate the rear tire so I know the brake isn't locked. Put it in first or second and release the clutch and she stalls immediately.

Will it start in gear and turn the rear tire with clutch released? Try the same procedure in one of the other gears.

[Aches n Pains]

Yes. I can start her in gear with the clutch disengaged. When I let out the clutch (engage it) she stalls.

[Aches n Pains]

Make that "no." I can put her in gear, pull in the clutch (disengage), and start her up. When I let the clutch out (engage) she stalls rather than turning the rear wheel in either first or second gear.

[BA80]

Make that "no." I can put her in gear, pull in the clutch (disengage), and start her up. When I let the clutch out (engage) she stalls rather than turning the rear wheel in either first or second gear.

And does the rear wheel turn freely in neutral with the bike on the center stand?

[BA80]

Try this, put the bike in gear with the engine off then try cranking the engine and see if it will turn over and the rear wheel turns. On the center stand of course.

[aquamantx]

Not for anything but it sounds like what bikes do when they have a kikstand safety switch.

[MPittma100]

Stalls

Make that "no." I can put her in gear, pull in the clutch (disengage), and start her up. When I let the clutch out (engage) she stalls rather than turning the rear wheel in either first or second gear.

Have you tried other gears - 3rd, 4th, 5th?

[ViperRon]

You should try what BA80 said try to start with it in gear but i bet it will not try to turn over. My feeling is its a problem with the neutral switch , wires, or circuit.

[BA80]

Not for anything but it sounds like what bikes do when they have a kikstand safety switch.

Pretty sure the side stand and clutch safety switches prevent the bike from starting unless the stand is up and the clutch is disengaged.

[BA80]

You should try what BA80 said try to start with it in gear but i bet it will not try to turn over. My feeling is its a problem with the neutral switch , wires, or circuit.

If I'm reading what he is saying correctly, it will start and go into gear but dies when the clutch is released and the rear wheel doesn't turn. From what I'm reading it sounds mechanical. Like it may be going into 2 gears at once.

I was a little vague when I said try to start it in gear, I should have said try to turn it over in gear with the clutch ENGAGED. If it is mechanical the engine won't turn when the starter engages.

Clear as mud?

[mack]

If he

drove the bike into the garage and parked it a year ago, one would assume that the transmission was functioning fine at that point. Nothing should have changed internally. No jammed dogs or bent shift forks.
If it starts in neutral and the R wheel turns freely, we can rule out crank issues, primary shaft, the middle drive, drive shaft, final drive and rear caliper.
So, it must be either the neutral switch, throw out bearing or the clutch itself.

[BA80]

drove the bike into the garage and parked it a year ago, one would assume that the transmission was functioning fine at that point. Nothing should have changed internally. No jammed dogs or bent shift forks.
If it starts in neutral and the R wheel turns freely, we can rule out crank issues, primary shaft, the middle drive, drive shaft, final drive and rear caliper.
So, it must be either the neutral switch, throw out bearing or the clutch itself.

Go back and READ mack. The bike starts and goes into gear fine, it dies when the clutch is engaged. Electrical can be ruled out unless it's something REALLY weird.

If not mechanical what would make it die when the clutch is engaged without the rear wheel turning?

[robbo]

Just a thought

Have you tried putting the bike in gear 2nd or 3rd with the engine switched off and clutch disengaged and rocking it back and forth or with some assistance pushing it? Always worked for me when I've had this problem on bikes. If the rear wheel doesn't turn I'd say the clutch plates are stuck together.