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  • #1

    rear bearing woes

    Today I took off the rear wheel which came off remarkably easy, then things got ugly. I followed the wheel bearing tech tip and the manual and after I pounded out the bearings and cleaned up the wheel I went online to try and find the right bearings. In the tech tip, the total price came to around $40. As I'm pricing it out the price has run amok the right side bearing is going for around $40 just by itself and the needle bearing is discontinued. I damaged the right side so thats going to has to be replaced. I rescued the right side from a can of part cleaners and while it's not terribly damaged or worn out I did nick the black inner sleeve. So i'm thinking it'll probably need to be replaced but maybe not I don't really want to risk it but at the same time this project has run way over budget every time I turn around I need a new tool, part, etc.

    So my question is what is the cheapest solution to replace both front and wheel bearings and where should I get them?

    my seal still look pretty good so I'm thinking I could reuse them unless thats a big no no.

    Thanks guys!
    79 F Bobber/Cafe Hybrid
    Rasputin on Carburators:
    "It is just a mechanical beast that defies logic."
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    bearings

    I usually have the dealer put new ones in with every tire I buy. I take the tires off the bike and carry rim and tire into the dealer. I get backs and front tires mounted with new bearings and seals for 100ish
    Bike History:1980 XS 1100 special current bike
    1980 XS 850 special wife sold

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    • #3
      Hey there OMCC,

      Take a look at the end of this recent thread for info about the left rear bearing!

      http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...397#post466397

      T.C.
      T. C. Gresham
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      • #4
        Originally posted by TopCatGr58 View Post
        Hey there OMCC,

        Take a look at the end of this recent thread for info about the left rear bearing!

        http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...397#post466397

        T.C.
        So it take it "FAG" 5904 is a suitable replacement? Who's a good supplier? kboehringer didn't mention a name.
        79 F Bobber/Cafe Hybrid
        Rasputin on Carburators:
        "It is just a mechanical beast that defies logic."

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        • #5
          So my question is what is the cheapest solution to replace both front and rear wheel bearings and where should I get them?
          Front wheel bearings....

          http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...&_sacat=172008

          Right rear wheel bearing...

          http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw...&_sacat=172008
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          • #6
            Originally posted by OMCC View Post
            Today I took off the rear wheel which came off remarkably easy, then things got ugly. I followed the wheel bearing tech tip and the manual and after I pounded out the bearings and cleaned up the wheel I went online to try and find the right bearings. In the tech tip, the total price came to around $40. As I'm pricing it out the price has run amok the right side bearing is going for around $40 just by itself and the needle bearing is discontinued. I damaged the right side so thats going to has to be replaced. I rescued the right side from a can of part cleaners and while it's not terribly damaged or worn out I did nick the black inner sleeve. So i'm thinking it'll probably need to be replaced but maybe not I don't really want to risk it but at the same time this project has run way over budget every time I turn around I need a new tool, part, etc.

            So my question is what is the cheapest solution to replace both front and wheel bearings and where should I get them?

            my seal still look pretty good so I'm thinking I could reuse them unless thats a big no no.

            Thanks guys!
            For the front, ANY local bearing supply has them, and under $20 for the pair.
            81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
              Front wheel bearings....

              http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...&_sacat=172008

              Right rear wheel bearing...

              http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw...&_sacat=172008
              holy cow so cheap! and these fit the 79f?
              79 F Bobber/Cafe Hybrid
              Rasputin on Carburators:
              "It is just a mechanical beast that defies logic."

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              • #8
                Yes they do. Just the left rear is the spendy one if you can even find one. GL
                2H7 (79)
                3H3

                "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                • #9
                  I didn't check the links, but Chinese bearings like All Balls, are cheap. Koyo is OEM and now mostly USA made. They aren't so cheap.
                  Marty (in Mississippi)
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jetmechmarty View Post
                    I didn't check the links, but Chinese bearings like All Balls, are cheap. Koyo is OEM and now mostly USA made. They aren't so cheap.
                    Are these acceptable? http://www.ebay.com/itm/KOYO-6303-2R...item3a97aefdf3
                    79 F Bobber/Cafe Hybrid
                    Rasputin on Carburators:
                    "It is just a mechanical beast that defies logic."

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                    • #11
                      would this bearing be an acceptable replacement for the rear left bearing the size looks right.

                      http://www.skf.com/us/products/beari...odid=188002004
                      79 F Bobber/Cafe Hybrid
                      Rasputin on Carburators:
                      "It is just a mechanical beast that defies logic."

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                      • #12
                        You and Kurt need to get your parts guys on the horn and do a conference call.

                        No, that NKIB is still in the 5904 family but it's an angular contact bearing. It's got needle and ball bearings and it's not the one you want. You want an NA 5904 like the one in T.C.'s picture that he just posted a few minutes ago in another thread, not a NKIB or NKIA 5904:-


                        1980 XS11 Special - Ugly Duckling Rebuild


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                        -- Scott
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                        2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                        1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                        1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                        1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                        1979 XS1100F: parts
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                        • #13
                          Found - not discontinued

                          Originally posted by 3Phase View Post

                          1980 XS11 Special - Ugly Duckling Rebuild
                          Check the other thread.... I found 'em!
                          Kurt Boehringer
                          Peachtree City, Georgia

                          1970 - CT70K0 - Mini-Trail
                          1978 - SR500 - Thumper
                          1979 - CT70H - Mini-Trail
                          1979 - XS1100SF - Pensacola
                          1980 - XS850SG - Rocky
                          1980 - XS1100SG - The Ugly Duck
                          1980 - XS1100SG - Mayberry Duck
                          1981 - XS1100SH - DEAD Duck Cafe'
                          1981 - XJ550 Maxim - Nancy's Mini-Max
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by kboehringer View Post
                            Check the other thread.... I found 'em!
                            I found one last night on ebay (SYI NA5904) that I think will work if not I would be interested in buying one from you.
                            Thanks!
                            79 F Bobber/Cafe Hybrid
                            Rasputin on Carburators:
                            "It is just a mechanical beast that defies logic."

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                            • #15
                              Well done, Sir!

                              Kurt, I'd be surprised if the entire '5904 bearing line was discontinued, it's not a proprietary Yamaha part.

                              The part that got discontinued was apparently Yamaha's version without the lubrication groove and feed hole to the needles from the outer race. I'm surprised it not normally offered for sale as a base version without the groove and the feed hole but it probably saved Yamaha a few Yen because the rear wheel hub isn't set up, drilled and tapped for a grease fitting anyway.

                              Nice find, OMCC!

                              .
                              -- Scott
                              _____
                              ♬
                              2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                              1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                              1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                              1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                              1979 XS1100F: parts
                              2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.
                              ♬

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