Why...... on dremel fix?

[Fearthepack]

Ok after 2nd gear washer swap... Confirmed! Almost entire 5th dog is engaged with 2nd gear slot.... So that clears up post #1 why entire dog ear needs work.

[Fearthepack]

Now what about 5th gear..... The shinny wear area is how deep or lack of depth that 5th dog goes into 2nd slots..



This shows 5th dogs after washer swap...

[Fearthepack]

OK i'm an idiot those last pics are incorrect.....I did not have the bolt on the counter shaft tightened down so the contact points are not correct here is an update pic.... after washer swap not quite full contact.

[clcorbin]

I think what might be causing the confusion is the wear is only evident on the tips of the dogs. The reason of this is that is the part of the dog that first makes contact with the other gear when you shift. At that instant, the parts are generally spinning at different speeds, so that tip has to absorb the full force of bringing the engine and bike into sync. That shock of that impact causes the tip of the dog to be worn.

[Winterhawk]

I'd be careful cutting on the dog ears. I think that they may have a nitrated coating on them to make them harder / stronger. I could be wrong.

[crazy steve]

The gears are hardened for wear; they're cast iron and if they weren't they wouldn't last long. But the shift dogs aren't exposed to the same wear, the only time there's wear present is during shifting. Shift with the right technique and there will be little or no wear, be sloppy about shifting and you'll be right back in there fixing it again....

[DELL82]

Shift with the right technique and there will be little or no wear, be sloppy about shifting and you'll be right back in there fixing it again....

So with my shin at an acute angle to the bottom of my foot makes it difficult to shift. That said if I could sit further back on the XJ1100 then lifting the foot would be easier. I may be weak or the angle of my shin is way less than 90 degrees. A heal toe shifter can remedy this problem I'm sure. Then what is the proper shifting technique?

[motoman]

So with my shin at an acute angle to the bottom of my foot makes it difficult to shift. That said if I could sit further back on the XJ1100 then lifting the foot would be easier. I may be weak or the angle of my shin is way less than 90 degrees. A heal toe shifter can remedy this problem I'm sure. Then what is the proper shifting technique?

Clutch/ shift operation is combined ONE motion at same time, not two seperate ones.

[IanDMacDonald]

I enjoy watching Youtube videos and listening to guys shift, and wonder who taught them, lol. I hear a lot of short shifting, usually from 2nd on up, and wonder if they think they're in a semi-truck. When I hung-out with my yoinger brother and Gabe (Down$hift), I was surprised to hear them shifting with no purpose, other than to make their foot useful.

[ViperRon]

Shifting is sort of like balancing the bike you have to get to the point where all actions and movements are muscle memory you do not really think about it much you just automatically respond. Turns and how to lean on what type surface starts to come natural as well as braking how much pressure on front and rear. The only way you get it is by riding more. So all you need is to ride more.

[crazy steve]

Then what is the proper shifting technique?

Pull in the clutch, shift FIRMLY AND WITH A FULL STROKE, release the clutch. I bought my '78 new (yeah, I'm old) and quickly learned that failing to use the right technique would result in the bike popping out of gear. If you release the clutch and apply power as soon as you 'feel' the gear engage (which doesn't require a full stroke of the shifter) you can get a 'smoother' feeling shift but the dogs won't fully engage and that accelerates wear.

It's the popping out of gear under load that really kills the shift dogs, or god forbid, shifting without the clutch. Yes, some bike transmissions will tolerate this type of technique/treatment, but not this one. Yes, it will shift somewhat 'clunkily' this way (although practice can reduce this somewhat), but that's the nature of the beast. Some of this was noted in the original reviews by the way....

[donebysunday]

Lesson learned

on this list that when you dremel an angle to the dogs and slots to match they will pull themselves together, this depends on how far down the dog you dremel in the angle.
Did I say that right ?
I'm thinking with the angle on the dogs and slots the washer might not need to be swapped. Whatcha think ?
Thanks for all the help y'all gave me when fixing that one I did just to see how it was done, then sold it. I still contact the new owner to see how it's held up and he likes it so much he now has a standard F as well.