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    How long to break in new pads ? Never had a problem before putting in new pads but on the LH, I've bled the two systems again after a ride last night (found I was not getting the stopping I had with the old pads, still good). Might have to clean up the old pads and put them back in ?
    76 XS650 C ROADSTER
    80 XS650 G Special II
    https://ibb.co/album/icbGgF
    80 XS 1100 SG
    81 XS 1100LH/SH DARKHORSE
    https://tinyurl.com/k6nzvtw
    AKA; Don'e, UD, Unca Don'e

  • #2
    What kind/type of pads did you get Done?
    Greg

    Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

    ― Albert Einstein

    80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BA80 View Post
      What kind/type of pads did you get Done?
      Sintered pads
      76 XS650 C ROADSTER
      80 XS650 G Special II
      https://ibb.co/album/icbGgF
      80 XS 1100 SG
      81 XS 1100LH/SH DARKHORSE
      https://tinyurl.com/k6nzvtw
      AKA; Don'e, UD, Unca Don'e

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      • #4
        That's what I have on the front of my SG and they work GREAT.

        I just changed my rear tire on the same bike and just mounted it on a spare wheel I have, rotor and all, and the rear brake was almost non existent until I burned the pads in good to the different rotor. Work them hard a little bit and they should get better.
        Greg

        Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

        ― Albert Einstein

        80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

        The list changes.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BA80 View Post
          That's what I have on the front of my SG and they work GREAT.

          I just changed my rear tire on the same bike and just mounted it on a spare wheel I have, rotor and all, and the rear brake was almost non existent until I burned the pads in good to the different rotor. Work them hard a little bit and they should get better.
          Guess I'll just have to go for another ride and find as many stop signs as I can
          76 XS650 C ROADSTER
          80 XS650 G Special II
          https://ibb.co/album/icbGgF
          80 XS 1100 SG
          81 XS 1100LH/SH DARKHORSE
          https://tinyurl.com/k6nzvtw
          AKA; Don'e, UD, Unca Don'e

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          • #6
            Hey Done,
            I have copper sintered on my G and when new they squealed like a pig. Nothing I tried helped stop that until I resorted to an old trick my old cage mechanic taught me.
            With a hacksaw, cut a groove in the middle of the pad material, almost to the bottom. This will actually give you two pads per rotor side. That got rid of the squeal and improved stopping power as well.
            1980G Standard, Restored
            Kerker 4 - 1
            850 Rear End Mod
            2-21 Flashing LED Arrays on either side of license plate for Brake Light Assist, 1100 Lumen Cree Aux Lights,
            Progressive springs, Showa rear shocks
            Automatic CCT
            1980GH Special, Restored
            Stock Exhaust, New Handlebars, 1" Spacer in Fork Springs, Automatic CCT, Showa Rear Shocks
            '82 XJ1100 (Sold)
            Automatic CCT, RC Engineering 4 X 1 Exhaust, K&N Pods, #50 Pilot Jets, YICS Eliminator. Sorely missed.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cobia View Post
              Hey Done,
              I have copper sintered on my G and when new they squealed like a pig. Nothing I tried helped stop that until I resorted to an old trick my old cage mechanic taught me.
              With a hacksaw, cut a groove in the middle of the pad material, almost to the bottom. This will actually give you two pads per rotor side. That got rid of the squeal and improved stopping power as well.
              I was wondering why the new pads did not have the slot cut in them ?
              Thank You !
              76 XS650 C ROADSTER
              80 XS650 G Special II
              https://ibb.co/album/icbGgF
              80 XS 1100 SG
              81 XS 1100LH/SH DARKHORSE
              https://tinyurl.com/k6nzvtw
              AKA; Don'e, UD, Unca Don'e

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              • #8
                Mine have no slot and work fine. They started squeaking so I tightened up the hardware where they mount and it's gone.

                Pads don't squeal on their own, they have to be properly installed.
                Greg

                Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                ― Albert Einstein

                80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

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                • #9
                  Groove

                  I ordered a replacement set and had the groove cut in them. That puzzled me because the old pads did not have the groove. Thanks for info on what that does for you.
                  2 - 80 LGs bought one new
                  81 LH
                  02 FXSTB Nighttrain
                  22 FLTRK Road Glide Limited
                  Jim

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                  • #10
                    Hey there Done,

                    You've already gotten the advice you need, so I'm just adding some confirmation on the burning in of the pads as the problem. When I put my dual piston calipers on my bike with the "USED" pads, it took a few weeks before they got worn in to match the rotor surface. But once they did, they work quite well. Sintered pads are a harder compound so they don't wear as quickly, and are also more designed for racing application, and so they also work a bit better when they get WARM. So....try to avoid Emergency stopping encounters, allow lots of following distance and such!

                    T.C.
                    T. C. Gresham
                    81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                    79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
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                    How nature points out the folly of men!

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                    • #11
                      I never tried sintered pads, but I was told they work best when hot as TC has suggested.
                      Marty (in Mississippi)
                      XS1100SG
                      XS650SK
                      XS650SH
                      XS650G
                      XS6502F
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                      • #12
                        Anyone had any experience with the Kevlar pads? I have an opportunity to get a set for all around the bike pretty cheap.
                        Greg

                        Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                        ― Albert Einstein

                        80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                        The list changes.

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                        • #13
                          Hey done

                          How are the brakes wearing in? I was just curious because of the mpg problems you are suffering. Was just wondering if when you spin the back wheel on center stand if you feel any friction from the pads. Also a good test to perform on the front. If all is fine with the brakes then I would go back into the carbs for tweaking. Your gas mileage should be better then 27mpg.

                          BA

                          I have used the Kevlar pads and they are fine.
                          2 - 80 LGs bought one new
                          81 LH
                          02 FXSTB Nighttrain
                          22 FLTRK Road Glide Limited
                          Jim

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                          • #14
                            Kevlar-Carbon

                            Originally posted by BA80 View Post
                            Anyone had any experience with the Kevlar pads? I have an opportunity to get a set for all around the bike pretty cheap.
                            D2Moto sells Kevlar-Carbon pads CHEAP. I really like them as much as any material. They do not stop as fast as sintered, but they don't squeal like sintered either. (I know you were able to solve your squealing, but I never could) Despite the big copper chunks in the material for heat dissipation, the Kevlar pads seem to have a slight fade as they heat up. I don't mind it because I like the softer feel with more travel in the brake lever.

                            I don't ride in the rain, so I can't report about Kevlar-Carbon in the rain.
                            -Mike
                            _________
                            '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
                            '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
                            '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
                            '79 XS750SF 17k miles
                            '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
                            '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
                            '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

                            Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by cajun31 View Post
                              How are the brakes wearing in? I was just curious because of the mpg problems you are suffering. Was just wondering if when you spin the back wheel on center stand if you feel any friction from the pads. Also a good test to perform on the front. If all is fine with the brakes then I would go back into the carbs for tweaking. Your gas mileage should be better then 27mpg.

                              BA

                              I have used the Kevlar pads and they are fine.
                              After about 100 mi. the brakes are working much better
                              As for the free wheeling, I've always had the rear not turn as many turns when I spin it as other 11s that I've had ? This may mean something but I did grease, changed gear lube FT&Bk. Maybe need to dig in further ?
                              Been working on it rather than riding it, reports ahead.
                              Thank You All !!!!! Done
                              76 XS650 C ROADSTER
                              80 XS650 G Special II
                              https://ibb.co/album/icbGgF
                              80 XS 1100 SG
                              81 XS 1100LH/SH DARKHORSE
                              https://tinyurl.com/k6nzvtw
                              AKA; Don'e, UD, Unca Don'e

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