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  • #16
    I've always like gauges on everything as well...for curiosity ive almost bought one of these multiple times, but I keep holding off


    http://blueskyppg.com/index.php?main...roducts_id=214
    79F
    "Excelsior"
    Honda gl1100 handlebar
    Vetter IV fairing with speaker system
    OE headers,Jardine slipons
    Hid headlight 6000k
    Stock jets
    Shinko 712 F & R
    Oe hardbags and luggage rack
    TC fuse block
    K&n filter with oe airbox
    Raptor 660 Acct

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    • #17
      Originally posted by sparkfly88 View Post
      I've always like gauges on everything as well...for curiosity ive almost bought one of these multiple times, but I keep holding off


      http://blueskyppg.com/index.php?main...roducts_id=214
      I know something very similar to that for much cheaper ill be back with a link.
      Yahman, awesome pics.... I'm using that idea for the 90° on that breather filter...
      Ray, great info, I'm no longer concerned! Haha
      Have:
      1994 FZR600
      1982 XJ1100

      Had:
      1996 YZF600R
      2001 Honda xr125
      Suzuki race 80
      Honda PW 50
      Etc.

      Getting:
      1977 DT400

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      • #18
        Personally, in response to the question "why?", my response is "why not?" An electronic temperature sensor installed in the sump pan (on my XJR1300 there is a threaded hole, plugged off with a sump plug, especially for that reason)

        Oil temps rise if the level is low or if there is an oil leak. Given the risks of a sump sensor causing problems (no more than the standard oil sump drain plug), and the low cost, I'd rather know what temp the oil is at than not. I already hear the response "it's another thing to go wrong"... Yes, it is. If the gauge packs in, it's not exactly the end of the world. You chuck it out and buy another one.

        Having a gauge enables one to see the running temps of various oils too. IMO the more data one has about the running of the bike, the better.

        Here's mine on the XJR..... It's been on for over a year and is accurate (it self-calibrates every power-up) and has been extremely reliable.


        XS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.

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        • #19
          The more guages, the higher the paranoia.

          Cant be bothered with all the extra bits to tell me if somethings going wrong. I'm not riding a race bike, so i dont need em. I'm riding a perfectly well engineered piece of kit that's designed to handle the conditions most riders, and conditions will give it. I check my oil at the start of a ride, and daily if a long ride, I use a good quality oil, and I listen to the engine for any changes. tells me all I need to know. If the engines running that hot that the oil is degrading, then it's too hot for me to ride, and I'll be in the pub.

          The only guage I actually need is the one that tells me if i'm gonna get a speeding ticket.
          1980 SG. (Sold - waiting on replacement)
          2000 XJR1300. The Real modern XS11. Others are just pretenders.

          Woman (well, my wife anyway) are always on Transmit and never Receive.

          "A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be" Albert Einstien.

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          • #20
            b.walker.5 said:
            The only guage I actually need is the one that tells me if i'm gonna get a speeding ticket.
            Brian, is that If or WHEN??
            Ray Matteis
            KE6NHG
            XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
            XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by James England View Post
              Personally, in response to the question "why?", my response is "why not?" An electronic temperature sensor installed in the sump pan (on my XJR1300 there is a threaded hole, plugged off with a sump plug, especially for that reason)

              Oil temps rise if the level is low or if there is an oil leak. Given the risks of a sump sensor causing problems (no more than the standard oil sump drain plug), and the low cost, I'd rather know what temp the oil is at than not. I already hear the response "it's another thing to go wrong"... Yes, it is. If the gauge packs in, it's not exactly the end of the world. You chuck it out and buy another one.

              Having a gauge enables one to see the running temps of various oils too. IMO the more data one has about the running of the bike, the better.

              Here's mine on the XJR..... It's been on for over a year and is accurate (it self-calibrates every power-up) and has been extremely reliable.


              I'm confused James- So, the Japs use MPH instead of Metric KPH? Do only the Canadian models use the KPH speedos?
              1979 XS1100F
              2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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              • #22
                James lives in the UK. They use MPH, NOT KPH, and the speedo reflects that. They DO drive on the "wrong" side of the yellow line, though.... (and yes, it does take about two days to get used to it!)
                Ray Matteis
                KE6NHG
                XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Yahman View Post

                  Where's the DVD player screen.
                  Greg

                  Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                  ― Albert Einstein

                  80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                  The list changes.

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                  • #24
                    I have a mount there for my GPS also, but I try to limit my distractions to only three or four at a time.

                    Larry
                    Inventor of the YICS Eliminator. Want one? Get it here.
                    http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...399#post183399

                    If you're not riding, you're not living!
                    82 XJ1100
                    80 XS1100G (Project bike)
                    64 Yamaha YA-6
                    77 Suzuki TS-185

                    79 XS1100SF Built this one for a friend.
                    See it here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBYT4C9_6Ac

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by b.walker5 View Post
                      The more guages, the higher the paranoia.
                      No, it's hardly that. Paranoia is a serious psychological ailment and I have a great deal of sympathy for those unfortunate enough to suffer from it. In the case of having an oil temperature gauge, or not, I think it comes down to personal preference. I find it quite enlightening to see how terrain, riding conditions, altitude (always on the ground of course..) affect running temperature and, if one has that particular interest, a temperature gauge is the best way to indulge it. Bit like some people stick a small digital clock somewhere, so they know what time it is, rather than as an indicator of mental instability or undue worry... Easily fitted, easily not fitted, necessary, unnecessary,...whatever. I love mine!
                      XS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by DiverRay View Post
                        James lives in the UK. They use MPH, NOT KPH, and the speedo reflects that. They DO drive on the "wrong" side of the yellow line, though.... (and yes, it does take about two days to get used to it!)
                        The Japanese drive on the 'wrong' side too, I was surprised to discover when I lived there........ We're not the only ones.....
                        XS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.

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                        • #27
                          I find it quite enlightening to see how terrain, riding conditions, altitude (always on the ground of course..) affect running temperature
                          I fitted one to my Special a few years ago, and the most surprising thing I noticed was how quickly the oil temp dropped when I rode through a sudden shower of rain on a hot day.



                          Total cost of my setup was AU$ 16.90

                          CLICK for installation thread
                          79 SF Special W/ Stock all original motor @ 384,000klms
                          Stock exhaust, stock airbox, XJ sump, 78E carbs, Xs1100RH seat, Bosch superhorns, 5/8ths front M/c, braided lines, sintered SBS pads, drilled discs, progressive springs, 8" 50w HID headlight 4300K, 2 x 50w HID spiral driving lights, KONI shocks, Spade fuse box
                          *Touring mode - Plexistar 2 screen, Gearsack rack & bag & saddlebags, homebuilt towbar
                          *"The Keg"- UC torana hubs, XS11 discs, Tokico 4 spot calipers

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                          • #28
                            Interesting install thread. Thank you. When I was having issues with my alternator, I installed a slim LCD voltmeter. It's hidden by the key somewhere. Ideas like this are nice, but I guess I trust that everything is okay with proper oil level.
                            1979 XS1100F
                            2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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                            • #29
                              I trust that everything is okay with proper oil level
                              Oil level?? Want a bit of a read?? Click for installation thread
                              79 SF Special W/ Stock all original motor @ 384,000klms
                              Stock exhaust, stock airbox, XJ sump, 78E carbs, Xs1100RH seat, Bosch superhorns, 5/8ths front M/c, braided lines, sintered SBS pads, drilled discs, progressive springs, 8" 50w HID headlight 4300K, 2 x 50w HID spiral driving lights, KONI shocks, Spade fuse box
                              *Touring mode - Plexistar 2 screen, Gearsack rack & bag & saddlebags, homebuilt towbar
                              *"The Keg"- UC torana hubs, XS11 discs, Tokico 4 spot calipers

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Eveready1100 View Post
                                Oil level?? Want a bit of a read?? Click for installation thread
                                Dang Errol! You just keep coming up with good ideas!
                                Nathan
                                KD9ARL

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                                1978 XS1100E
                                K&N Filter
                                #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                                OEM Exhaust
                                ATK Fork Brace
                                LED Dash lights
                                Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                                Green Monster Coils
                                SS Brake Lines
                                Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                                In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                                Theodore Roosevelt

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