Quicksilver cheap synthetic at Walmart???.

[sparkfly88]

Anyone ever use this quicksilver synthetic oil?? Walmart by me has a gallon of full synthetic 20-50 for 25 bucks!

[motoman]

Anyone ever use this quicksilver synthetic oil?? Walmart by me has a gallon of full synthetic 20-50 for 25 bucks!

IMHO, why would would you wanna' risk our 30+yr. clutch disc composite material that may or may not 'play well' with a low-end synthetic lubricant? Internal components and air-cooled looser top-end clearances dictate the original use of a quality 20-50w(20-40w back in the day) dino oil. Myself, what was immediately noticed going form Castrol 20-50 to Vav. of same viscosity was the quietness of top-end valve train. This was brought to my attention many yrs. back by a member here who experienced this result and reported it here. Just my personnel experience, and results will obviously vary depending on upper valve train cond., but thanks for showing availability of another option.

[3Phase]

It's supposed to be totally a thoroughly cracked GIII synthetic from Mercury Marine. I'd use it but $25 is a little spendy for a gallon at Wally World.

One of the folks on bitog particularly liked the picture of a centrifugal clutch used as a reference for a typical wet clutch.

Full Synthetic Motorcycle Oil from Mercury Marine

MSDS



FWIW I bought two 2-gallon jugs of 15W-50 synthetic blend Mystik JT-8 Super Heavy Duty Engine Oil on sale at O'Reilly's Auto for ~$22 each/$11 gallon and the stuff is superb. It's also available at Farm and Fleet with 2 gallon jugs for $23.99 each/$12 gallon.

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[sparkfly88]

Nearest O'Reillys is about an hour or so away.... Farm and fleet is nowhere. Lol.

Maybe the tractor supply here will have something. I stopped using 15w40 though, I used to use Rotella... Didn't like to shift nicely.

[BA80]

http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42165

[3Phase]

Nearest O'Reillys is about an hour or so away.... Farm and fleet is nowhere. Lol.

Maybe the tractor supply here will have something. I stopped using 15w40 though, I used to use Rotella... Didn't like to shift nicely.

Take a look at the Wal-Mart Mercury Quicksilver 20W-50 motorcycle oil deal or go to Mystic's site and rattle their cage, see what falls out for a local supplier. I may wind up with some more Rotella T3 15W-40 when I run out of 15W-50. Shell's a little too proud of their T6 5W-40 but the T3 works fine, never had a problem with it. I'll have to see what's on sale.

Right now I still have a little less than three gallons of 15W-50 synth blend. While I was at O'Reilly's I bought over a dozen of the WIX oil filters (both o-rings included) for ~$5 Each to go along with the oil and cleaned out four of their warehouses.

I linked to Farm and Fleet as one example of an alternate Mystic Oil supplier because O'Reilly's online says they're out of Mystic 15W-50 1-quart, 1-gallon, and 2-gallon jugs. They do still list:

5-gallon buckets for $85 Each/$17 gallon
55-gallon drums for $890 Each/$16 gallon

That should hold almost anyone for a while or at least until it goes on sale again and don't forget the oil filters.

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[TopCatGr58]

Hey Sparkfly,

We've had this discussion before. The question is WHY bother with Synth? If you do the recommended oil changes at 3k miles, it gets real expensive real fast. Our old engines don't have a tight of clearances as modern engines, and so there's lots of contamination that occurs from the combustion chamber, so even though Synth is supposed to last longer, not break down as quickly, because it gets "dirty", it needs to be changed every 3k miles or sooner anyways. The Synth was supposed to last longer and allow longer time intervals between changes which works for new car engines, but not for our old engines. Now in the middle and final drives...that's a different story.

T.C.

[sparkfly88]

Hey Sparkfly,

We've had this discussion before. The question is WHY bother with Synth? If you do the recommended oil changes at 3k miles, it gets real expensive real fast. Our old engines don't have a tight of clearances as modern engines, and so there's lots of contamination that occurs from the combustion chamber, so even though Synth is supposed to last longer, not break down as quickly, because it gets "dirty", it needs to be changed every 3k miles or sooner anyways. The Synth was supposed to last longer and allow longer time intervals between changes which works for new car engines, but not for our old engines. Now in the middle and final drives...that's a different story.

T.C.

Well, I was asking because at the same walmart is where I buy the 20/50 castrol GTX I normally run...at almost 5$ a quart for just regular oil...

So the synthetic...is basically the exact price.
I really havent found anything cheaper than these two around here in the 20/50...

[BA80]

Hey Sparkfly,

Our old engines don't have a tight of clearances as modern engines, and so there's lots of contamination that occurs from the combustion chamber
T.C.

AND the clutch friction, and transmission gears all in the same oil.

[3Phase]

T.C, Greg,

Sparky's in Florida and I'm in SoCal where it gets, uh, warm and I like to ride out in Arizona/Nevada.

Even with California's lane sharing, riding in traffic or anywhere else at a balmy 105F+ does bad things to dino juice. The "synthetic" and blend oils seem to hold up better in the heat, or at least they'll run long enough to get fuel contaminated and shear down out of grade.

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[BA80]

Yeah, right. It never gets hot out here away from the LEFT coast.

[motoman]

Looks like your due for a thermometer upgrade........or some ridin' a bit northwest of ya'.

[sparkfly88]

yeah, that thing HAS to be out of calibration

[3Phase]

I know! I know! The heat's lovely isn't it!

That's close to what it was here just a little while ago and Simi's on the cool side of the mountains around the San Fernando Valley. You don't even want to know what the actual temperatures on the freeways are with ten or fifteen million vehicles all going zero to twenty MPH for miles and miles and hours and hours, most of 'em with the A/C running full blast.

So, yeah, the heat is why I'll run a less-than-honest 'synthetic' or an honest blend oil if the price is in line with a good Jurassic Park product.

Oh, and I can't get Castrol GTX 20W-50 or quite a few other brands of SAE xxW-50 oils out here without doing some shopping and ordering gymnastics. I suspect the State of California C.A.R.B. is trying to move everyone away from real numbers like 15W-40 to synthetic(imaginary) numbers like -50W-00 to save the world or some such eco-blather.

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[sparkfly88]

The new chevy trucks run on 0W20 semi synthetic...

I couldnt believe it myself....but I work at a chevy dealer...so...I have to pour this...water...into the crankcase.