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    Has anyone noticed a better build quality on Midnight Special's?

  • #2
    I have read that the frame welds are ground down smoother than other models.
    Last edited by bikerphil; 03-08-2014, 12:26 AM.
    2H7 (79) owned since '89
    3H3 owned since '06

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    • #3
      Quality

      Just picked up one today for 500 bucks, pics tomorrow. Welds seam a lot better.

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      • #4
        That was one of the excuses...err, reasons Yamaha gave for charging the premium price for a MNS. They did have better assembly detailing, but there were no claims made about the mechanical assemblies....
        Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

        '78E original owner - resto project
        '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
        '82 XJ rebuild project
        '80SG restified, red SOLD
        '79F parts...
        '81H more parts...

        Other current bikes:
        '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
        '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
        '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
        Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
        Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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        • #5
          I wonder how badass it was to see that Midnight Special when it first came out. No other bike like it (except smaller siblings obviously). A very nice-looking bike next to the Standard.
          1979 XS1100F
          2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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          • #6
            They had a MNS in the showroom when I bought the only new bike I have ever owned in 1980. It was interesting to me at the time but truth be told I liked the black (with the ruby metial flake) and chrome special next to it a lot better so I bought that one. Maybe not my best move but I ended up selling the special 2 years latter anyway. Would love to have the opportunity make that decision again now
            wingnut
            81 SH (Daily Ride)
            81 650XJ (Brother in laws bike, Delivered)
            81 650XJ Jane Doe (Son's Ride)
            82 750XJ Project bike (Son in law's future ride)
            81 XS 400

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            • #7
              1980

              I remember I had my SF for a season by then and was in the dealership for a tune up to start the new season. They were trying to talk me into dealing in my bike for a shiny new midnight. I was looking at it and thought to myself,"look at all the work you'd have to do to keep it looking like that!" Then they started it. It had a sharper, higher pitch to the exhausts than the deep throaty tone of my SF. I just shook my head and said no thanx. Little did I know how prophetic my thought were.
              mack
              79 XS 1100 SF Special
              HERMES
              original owner
              http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

              81 XS 1100 LH MNS
              SPICA
              http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

              78 XS 11E
              IOTA
              https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
              https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



              Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
              Frankford, Ont, Canada
              613-398-6186

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              • #8
                Quality

                The welds at the yoke are about the only thing I found that was superior on the LH over the SF. I find the newer carbs mickey mouse. Lighter cams and why they chose to put a separate main fuse on the other side of the bike by itself is still confusing to me. The speedo belongs in toys r us. Mirrors are smaller. I don't like the seat as well as the saddle that came with the SF and I absolutely hated the braking system on the LH model. Gave me the creeps. And this may sound funny, but it rides and handles differently to the SF. The black and gold make it look smaller too. When I put them side by side, the SF looks like a more muscular bike.
                When I first looked at the SF, there was an F right beside it. I sat on both, listened to both and liked both but the SF just fit my eye. It looks like what I've always considered motorcycles should look like. If I had to choose one, but only one, it would still be my choice everytime. It's never left me on the side of the road and I've never had any trouble keeping up with anything in the fast lane when I'm traveling.
                mack
                79 XS 1100 SF Special
                HERMES
                original owner
                http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

                81 XS 1100 LH MNS
                SPICA
                http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

                78 XS 11E
                IOTA
                https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
                https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



                Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
                Frankford, Ont, Canada
                613-398-6186

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                • #9
                  Great views guys. Thank you.
                  1979 XS1100F
                  2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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                  • #10
                    Quality

                    Just noticed that the reflector's in front of the gas tank on the MNS have a plastic mount and the other special's have just a steel bracket. There's steel under there I assume , but just another case of more effort in the factory build.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by IanDMacDonald View Post
                      I wonder how badass it was to see that Midnight Special when it first came out. No other bike like it (except smaller siblings obviously). A very nice-looking bike next to the Standard.
                      ........pretty badasss lookin' for the time period. Almost caused me to change my mind when I bought the Venturer new.
                      81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                      • #12
                        venturer

                        The venturer will be the last one I look for to complete my stable.
                        mack
                        79 XS 1100 SF Special
                        HERMES
                        original owner
                        http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

                        81 XS 1100 LH MNS
                        SPICA
                        http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

                        78 XS 11E
                        IOTA
                        https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
                        https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



                        Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
                        Frankford, Ont, Canada
                        613-398-6186

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by XS1100carbon View Post
                          Just noticed that the reflector's in front of the gas tank on the MNS have a plastic mount and the other special's have just a steel bracket. There's steel under there I assume , but just another case of more effort in the factory build.
                          If you've seen those missing on other bikes, that's because somebody left them off. The LG had no 'special' parts on it (other than part color or emblems) compared to the 'regular' Specials, the LH was the same except for different wheels, brakes, and fork lowers (all of which were used on the '82 XJ).
                          Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                          '78E original owner - resto project
                          '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                          '82 XJ rebuild project
                          '80SG restified, red SOLD
                          '79F parts...
                          '81H more parts...

                          Other current bikes:
                          '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                          '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                          '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                          Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                          Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                          • #14
                            original LG owner here

                            What can I say .... as soon as I saw the LG in one of my cycle magazines I had to have one. My dealership got two in and I bought mine in Feb of 1980. It really wasn't that hard to keep clean when new. Of course letting one sit up for ten years didn't do it any good, however it runs and is still as strong today as when new. I have had it so long now that I could never part with it. I suspect that when I pass my kids will let her go. I will tell them about this site in the interim and at least it will go to someone that could appreciate it for what it is.
                            2 - 80 LGs bought one new
                            81 LH
                            02 FXSTB Nighttrain
                            22 FLTRK Road Glide Limited
                            Jim

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                            • #15
                              Quote: Posted by cajun31>
                              What can I say .... as soon as I saw the LG in one of my cycle magazines I had to have one.


                              I felt exactly the same way when I first saw a brand new '79 SF sitting on the showroom floor back in 1979!

                              Only difference is, well, it took me nearly 35 years to finally get mine! - bought it in Aug. of 2013.

                              So cool that you bought your Midnight brand new and have kept it all these years ...
                              Marco

                              Current bikes:
                              1979 Yamaha XS Eleven Special (SF)
                              1979 Honda CBX
                              2002 Kawasaki ZRX1200R

                              Rest in Peace, Don Glardon (DGXSER) 1966-2014
                              WE MISS YOU, DON

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