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  • Replacement of Clutch Springs/Plates

    I'm gathering up my shopping list for the bike. I do know that I had some clutch slipping at high speed. So, should I just go ahead and buy the plates and springs and get it over with? If I get into this following TC's great write-up, I'd rather just knock it out instead of leaving things un-done.
    1979 XS1100F
    2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

  • #2
    Most everyone finds the friction discs to still be in spec. Just putting the Barnett springs in are usually enough.

    DO NOT USE EBC SPRINGS! They are weak to start with.
    Nathan
    KD9ARL

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    1978 XS1100E
    K&N Filter
    #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
    OEM Exhaust
    ATK Fork Brace
    LED Dash lights
    Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

    Green Monster Coils
    SS Brake Lines
    Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

    In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

    Theodore Roosevelt

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    • #3
      Thanks Nate!
      1979 XS1100F
      2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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      • #4
        Springs are usually all it needs Ian. Barnetts are what I recommend. Part # 501-58-06045
        Greg

        Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

        ― Albert Einstein

        80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

        The list changes.

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        • #5
          While youre in there you may as well clean up the steels and frictions with some sandpaper. New springs and cleaning plates wont guarantee a fix though. I put in Barnett HD springs, cleaned the plates (still in spec) and it still slips when I get on it hard.
          Nate

          78 XS11 "Matilda" 2H7 000364

          2001 Raptor ACCT, T.C. Fuse Box, TC Bros Forward Controls
          Kuryakyn Iso Grips/Throttleboss/Bar End Mirror, Custom Covered Seat
          Shinko 712s, HID Headlight, RC Performance Exhaust
          Bikemaster Daytona Handlebars, Galfer SS Brake Lines
          Barnett HD Clutch Springs, T.C. Spin On Filter Adapter
          K+N Air Filter

          88 Voyager XII
          81 XJ650 Maxim

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          • #6
            Don't mean to start anything but what kind of oil are you running Tats?

            Any additives?
            Greg

            Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

            ― Albert Einstein

            80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

            The list changes.

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            • #7
              Take a look at these:

              Heavy Duty Clutch Springs

              Replacement Clutch Springs

              Clutch Plate

              The heavy duty ones are on my list.
              78 E - 2to1 exhaust, dynatek coils, special headlight [SOLD!]
              79 F - gas tank refurb, headgasket change, straight pipes, late model carbs, virago lowering shocks, special headlight and gauges, TC fuse block, GSXR-1100 carbs (WIP)


              "May my tires not fail me, nor my engine grow cold"

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              • #8
                Clutch

                I also used barnett hd springs and plates with mobile 1 motorcycle
                racing oil and have no problem with slippage and i ride hard.
                79 SF

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                • #9
                  I use Barnett springs and stock frictions in an engine that came out of an F parts bike from Bob Jones' "pile-o-parts" (the only one out of 8 I bought at the last memorial Bob Jones Memorial Rally that would turn over) with Wally World house brand 20W50 and I CAN'T MAKE the clutch slip.
                  Greg

                  Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                  ― Albert Einstein

                  80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                  The list changes.

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                  • #10
                    I've read some fellas put some washers on the clutch bolts to strengthen up the weak springs. That would be the cheapest way. My clutch just started slipping today, hmmm.
                    2H7 (79) owned since '89
                    3H3 owned since '06

                    "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                    • #11
                      Springs are only about $20. http://www.phatperformanceparts.com/...14&Search.y=10
                      Greg

                      Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                      ― Albert Einstein

                      80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                      The list changes.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by D0wn5h1ft View Post
                        Take a look at these:

                        Heavy Duty Clutch Springs

                        Replacement Clutch Springs

                        Clutch Plate

                        The heavy duty ones are on my list.
                        Yeah, I've read through many posts regarding the EBC springs (including Nate's above), and was advised to stay away from those. They come too short, and are weak. I'll be going for some Barnett springs. Not sure I want HD springs though, as I hate a still clutch, and love the hydraulic clutches on my other bikes.
                        1979 XS1100F
                        2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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                        • #13
                          Well, you got a good winter project then, there is a tech tip on converting the XS11 to a hydraulic clutch.
                          Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                          When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                          81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                          80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                          Previously owned
                          93 GSX600F
                          80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                          81 XS1100 Special
                          81 CB750 C
                          80 CB750 C
                          78 XS750

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BA80 View Post
                            Don't mean to start anything but what kind of oil are you running Tats?

                            Any additives?
                            Castrol 20w50
                            Nate

                            78 XS11 "Matilda" 2H7 000364

                            2001 Raptor ACCT, T.C. Fuse Box, TC Bros Forward Controls
                            Kuryakyn Iso Grips/Throttleboss/Bar End Mirror, Custom Covered Seat
                            Shinko 712s, HID Headlight, RC Performance Exhaust
                            Bikemaster Daytona Handlebars, Galfer SS Brake Lines
                            Barnett HD Clutch Springs, T.C. Spin On Filter Adapter
                            K+N Air Filter

                            88 Voyager XII
                            81 XJ650 Maxim

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by IanDMacDonald View Post
                              Yeah, I've read through many posts regarding the EBC springs (including Nate's above), and was advised to stay away from those. They come too short, and are weak. I'll be going for some Barnett springs. Not sure I want HD springs though, as I hate a still clutch, and love the hydraulic clutches on my other bikes.
                              I agree with others about Barnett, HD springs are what I used, only notice the stiffer lever for a week or so. Not a problem unless your going to drive 40 miles in stop and go traffic.

                              I also bought cheap friction plates from parts-n-more for about $40 and put them in after I roughed up the stock steels with some ~250 grit sand paper. Clean the grit off with carb cleaner and reassemble. Its been 2 or 3 years now and still no slip, even after countless wheelies.
                              '79 XS11 F
                              Stock except K&N

                              '79 XS11 SF
                              Stock, no title.

                              '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
                              GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

                              "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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