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  • #16
    Originally posted by MaximPhil View Post
    Hi Don,
    If you blow in the end while holding your fingers like that does it sound like a didgeridoo
    Phil
    Hey Phil,

    Maybe its just me, but I tend not to blow on long round tubular things. Not that there is anything WRONG with that of course. Its just not something I do.

    Oh..and what in the tarnation is a didgeridoo? I am apparently getting a global slang edumication today.
    Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

    When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

    81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
    80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


    Previously owned
    93 GSX600F
    80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
    81 XS1100 Special
    81 CB750 C
    80 CB750 C
    78 XS750

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    • #17
      Originally posted by DGXSER View Post
      Hey Phil,

      Maybe its just me, but I tend not to blow on long round tubular things. Not that there is anything WRONG with that of course. Its just not something I do.

      Oh..and what in the tarnation is a didgeridoo? I am apparently getting a global slang edumication today.
      An Australian wind instrument. I'll look for a picture.
      Here you go http://www.didjshop.com/ everything you need to know. I bet your make up would be black grease instead of the more usual white clay
      Phil
      Last edited by MaximPhil; 12-09-2013, 11:38 PM.
      1981 XS1100 H Venturer ( Addie)
      1983 XJ 650 Maxim
      2004 Kawasaki Concours. ( Black Bear)

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      • #18
        Easy Enough

        I made 2 tools: the 1/2 inch bolt (3/4 inch head) with 2 nuts and a length of 1.5 inch PVC pipe for a seal driver.

        Got both forks apart, cleaned, and back together with no problems. The tips and home made tools worked as well as any professional ones. I am obliged to all of you who helped. There was quite a bit of sludge in the bottom of each fork and this bike only has 16K miles on it. Must be the 33 year sludge. The seals were apparently original as they had the fork manufacturer's name on them. Only one was leaking, but 2 new seals will go in.

        I have noticed that when you put the fork caps back on (especially when the forks are still attached to the bike) that it is rather difficult to get them started back into the forks. Does anyone have a special trick for that or is it just me?

        Mike


        Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
        Find a bolt with a 19MM head (3/4" should also work) and tighten two nuts together on the end. With the fork laying on the bench, put the double nut end in a deepwell socket with a long extension, slide it into the fork tube and the head of the bolt will fit into the damper rod as shown in the pic below. Now you can hold it from spinning while you undo the allen bolt on the bottom of the leg.

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        1981 XS1100H Venturer
        K&N Air Filter
        ACCT
        Custom Paint by Deitz
        Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
        Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
        Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
        Stebel Nautilus Horn
        EBC Front Rotors
        Limie Accent Moves On In 2015

        Mike

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        • #19
          If it has the air valve caps, I use a piece of 1X4 oak about 4" tall with a slot cut out that fits over the air valve cap, sits on the straights. I use that to push down and turn at the same time. Push carefully as these are fine threads. I actually pull the spring out, then sit the cap on the fork tube and find the point where the threads start, and mark that on both pieces. That way I know where to start it with the spring in place.
          Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

          When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

          81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
          80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


          Previously owned
          93 GSX600F
          80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
          81 XS1100 Special
          81 CB750 C
          80 CB750 C
          78 XS750

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          • #20
            After my fork seal job, I had the forks installed on the bike. Would have been easier to put caps on when they were out. Anyhoo, I removed the handlebars, and simply used a socket and ratchet and CAREFULLY pushed and turned to screw cap in.
            79 F
            Previously owned: (among others)
            1969 Harley- Davidson Rapido 125 (Aermacchi)
            1967 Suzuki X6 Hustler
            1973 Suzuki TM 125
            1979 XS1100 F
            2005 Kaw. Vulcan VN800
            1991 BMW K75

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            • #21
              Yep, the 78-79 Standard forks without air, a 22MM socket and a ratchet may be used to install the caps, other models with air, a simple tool like Don mentioned can be fabricated..... ↓

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              2H7 (79) owned since '89
              3H3 owned since '06

              "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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              • #22
                Forks Finished

                I did get the forks finished. Thanks for all of your help. Took a while to get past installing the seals due to the fact that there are a lot of opinions from seal distributors as to what is the correct seal for these forks. It took a third set of seals to be the correct ones and that is two more attempts than I am usually happy with.

                A set of Pyramid seals came with the bike from the PO. They were close, but no cigar. Ordered another set on Ebay called "leak proof" seals and they were once again "close". Finally a set from Bikemaster fit properly and are currently installed. I have another set from K&L. They look closer to the right ones, but are not exactly like OEM.

                As a back-up, I have obtained 2 sets of OEM Yamaha seals that are the KYB brand which I feel like I can trust without a problem.

                Another not so good word about K&N: I bought 2 K&N petcock rebuild kits on Ebay. One of the kits did not have the petcock to tank rubber gasket. I contacted the dealer "filterking" twice regarding the missing item. To date I have had no response. It has been 3 weeks.

                As a result, I will not buy from "filterking" again and I recommend that any of you do the same. There are other vendors that I will find to deal with.

                Mike
                1981 XS1100H Venturer
                K&N Air Filter
                ACCT
                Custom Paint by Deitz
                Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
                Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
                Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
                Stebel Nautilus Horn
                EBC Front Rotors
                Limie Accent Moves On In 2015

                Mike

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by MPittma100 View Post
                  Another not so good word about K&N: I bought 2 K&N petcock rebuild kits on Ebay. One of the kits did not have the petcock to tank rubber gasket. I contacted the dealer "filterking" twice regarding the missing item. To date I have had no response. It has been 3 weeks.

                  As a result, I will not buy from "filterking" again and I recommend that any of you do the same. There are other vendors that I will find to deal with.

                  Mike
                  Do you mean "K&L"? Many of us have had very good luck with GEORGEFIX'S MOTORCYCLE PARTS for these items. That's where I got mine.
                  Marty (in Mississippi)
                  XS1100SG
                  XS650SK
                  XS650SH
                  XS650G
                  XS6502F
                  XS650E

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                  • #24
                    Just for future reference...

                    Standard Fork Seal - 37X49X8
                    Special Fork Seal - 37X48X10.5
                    2H7 (79) owned since '89
                    3H3 owned since '06

                    "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                    • #25
                      As I posted earlier, just replaced my '79F fork seals with:

                      http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bike-Master-...L:COSI:US:1123

                      (tried to copy hotlink to item, , I guess copy the address in your browser)

                      item# 350817025156
                      on ebay
                      These babies were perfect. I used a roll of electrical tape to put on the seal, and popped them in by hitting the roll of tape with a rubber mallet. The roll of tape was the same size as the opening on top of the fork lower.
                      79 F
                      Previously owned: (among others)
                      1969 Harley- Davidson Rapido 125 (Aermacchi)
                      1967 Suzuki X6 Hustler
                      1973 Suzuki TM 125
                      1979 XS1100 F
                      2005 Kaw. Vulcan VN800
                      1991 BMW K75

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                      • #26
                        Forrk Seals

                        Originally posted by jetmechmarty View Post
                        Do you mean "K&L"? Many of us have had very good luck with GEORGEFIX'S MOTORCYCLE PARTS for these items. That's where I got mine.

                        Hi Marty,

                        Yes, I did mean K&L. I will use George Fix in the future. I suspect that it was not filterking's error that the part was missing, but I certainly hold it against them that they chose to do nothing about it.

                        Mike
                        1981 XS1100H Venturer
                        K&N Air Filter
                        ACCT
                        Custom Paint by Deitz
                        Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
                        Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
                        Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
                        Stebel Nautilus Horn
                        EBC Front Rotors
                        Limie Accent Moves On In 2015

                        Mike

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by DGXSER View Post
                          Oh..and what in the tarnation is a didgeridoo? I am apparently getting a global slang edumication today.
                          You need to get out more Don.

                          This is a didgeridoo.



                          Naturally hollowed out by termites, painted by bored abo's, and played by street buskers looking to make a few quid... , or sold to unsuspected tourists for far too much.

                          Traditionally, as Maximphil says, theyre a musical instrument that takes a skill called circular breathing to blow.

                          Theyre of no use whatsoever for dismantling forks.....
                          1980 SG. (Sold - waiting on replacement)
                          2000 XJR1300. The Real modern XS11. Others are just pretenders.

                          Woman (well, my wife anyway) are always on Transmit and never Receive.

                          "A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be" Albert Einstien.

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                          • #28
                            Did What?

                            Originally posted by b.walker5 View Post
                            You need to get out more Don.

                            This is a didgeridoo.



                            Naturally hollowed out by termites, painted by bored abo's, and played by street buskers looking to make a few quid... , or sold to unsuspected tourists for far too much.

                            Traditionally, as Maximphil says, theyre a musical instrument that takes a skill called circular breathing to blow.

                            Theyre of no use whatsoever for dismantling forks.....
                            Now that is something that we don't see everyday.
                            1981 XS1100H Venturer
                            K&N Air Filter
                            ACCT
                            Custom Paint by Deitz
                            Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
                            Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
                            Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
                            Stebel Nautilus Horn
                            EBC Front Rotors
                            Limie Accent Moves On In 2015

                            Mike

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