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  • Fork Rebuild 1980G

    I'm trying to get the front fork apart to replace the seal. Allen bolt in lower end turns but will not come out. What am I doing wrong?

    Thanks, Mike
    1981 XS1100H Venturer
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    Mike

  • #2
    Shove a wooden broom handle or dowel rod down there to hold it still.
    Nathan
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    • #3
      BikerPhil has a tool, basically all thread with IIRC 19 mm nuts on each end that fits in there to stop it turning.
      Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

      When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

      81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
      80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


      Previously owned
      93 GSX600F
      80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
      81 XS1100 Special
      81 CB750 C
      80 CB750 C
      78 XS750

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      • #4
        Read this--- Been there done that, just a week ago.

        http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...ght=fork+seals
        79 F
        Previously owned: (among others)
        1969 Harley- Davidson Rapido 125 (Aermacchi)
        1967 Suzuki X6 Hustler
        1973 Suzuki TM 125
        1979 XS1100 F
        2005 Kaw. Vulcan VN800
        1991 BMW K75

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        • #5
          Find a bolt with a 19MM head (3/4" should also work) and tighten two nuts together on the end. With the fork laying on the bench, put the double nut end in a deepwell socket with a long extension, slide it into the fork tube and the head of the bolt will fit into the damper rod as shown in the pic below. Now you can hold it from spinning while you undo the allen bolt on the bottom of the leg.

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          • #6

            This is the tool that goes down into the fork to hold the damper rod.

            Down in the fork assembly the top of the damper rod looks like a socket.


            You can make a tool.


            Some time ago, I was having this same issue with my Special and asked the same question. (The Special damper rod has no teeth in it to grip.) Bikerphil said to cram a broomstick against it and that will hold it. He was right.
            Marty (in Mississippi)
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            • #7
              Maybe I have been lucky with the Special forks I have rebuilt. I always break the allen bolt loose, then when it starts to turn the damper rod, I grab the upper tube with my thumb and for finger, and the lower slider with my other three fingers, then spread my fingers to create a friction of the slider pulling on the damper rod that holds it from turning while I remove the bolt. I do have to get a new grip every so often as the bolt comes out. Ehh...It works for me anyway.
              Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

              When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

              81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
              80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


              Previously owned
              93 GSX600F
              80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
              81 XS1100 Special
              81 CB750 C
              80 CB750 C
              78 XS750

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              • #8
                I made the same exact tool Jet...marty made. Easy peasy.
                79 F
                Previously owned: (among others)
                1969 Harley- Davidson Rapido 125 (Aermacchi)
                1967 Suzuki X6 Hustler
                1973 Suzuki TM 125
                1979 XS1100 F
                2005 Kaw. Vulcan VN800
                1991 BMW K75

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                • #9
                  Hi Mike, the following pic is of my '80 G's forks broken down for rebuild and on the top the three tools I used for disassembly.

                  The only part missing is the fork spring itself, but I'd imagine you would know where they go.




                  Just thought it might help upon reassembly if there was any question on which parts go where.

                  Also a good idea to reinstall the two Allen bolts with a little blue locktite and just a spot of gasket sealer under the washer just 'cause.
                  Last edited by Schming; 12-09-2013, 06:59 PM.
                  1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
                  1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
                  1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
                  1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
                  1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

                  Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MarkD View Post
                    I made the same exact tool Jet...marty made. Easy peasy.

                    I can't take the credit. I found those images using Google.
                    Marty (in Mississippi)
                    XS1100SG
                    XS650SK
                    XS650SH
                    XS650G
                    XS6502F
                    XS650E

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                    • #11
                      fork springs

                      Thought I might add that the small coil portion of the fork spring
                      belongs on the bottom (lower)
                      Joe
                      78standard,79 & 80 Specials; 2 x 650 Maxims; 4 x RD350's; yz450; 2 x Honda tlr's;2x jt1 mini.

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                      • #12
                        1980G Fork Repair

                        Thank you all. I was stumped for sure. So I stopped and asked and wow!. Great, quick information. And I thank all of you. Made the tool and will proceed to disassemble and rebuild.

                        Mike
                        1981 XS1100H Venturer
                        K&N Air Filter
                        ACCT
                        Custom Paint by Deitz
                        Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
                        Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
                        Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
                        Stebel Nautilus Horn
                        EBC Front Rotors
                        Limie Accent Moves On In 2015

                        Mike

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Schming View Post
                          Hi Mike, the following pic is of my '80 G's forks broken down for rebuild and on the top the three tools I used for disassembly.

                          Also a good idea to reinstall the two Allen bolts with a little blue locktite and just a spot of gasket sealer under the washer just 'cause.
                          LOL.
                          If you do use Locktite, you will need the nuts-on a-stick to get them apart next time, a broom handle won't get it.

                          CZ

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by CaptonZap View Post
                            LOL.
                            If you do use Locktite, you will need the nuts-on a-stick to get them apart next time, a broom handle won't get it.

                            CZ
                            Mine were put on from the factory with locktite so I figured there was a reason.

                            And yes they were a bitch to break loose even with the tool I fabbed.
                            What also isn't in my pic is the 18" cheater pipe I used with the ratchet while standing on the wrench.
                            1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
                            1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
                            1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
                            1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
                            1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

                            Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DGXSER View Post
                              Maybe I have been lucky with the Special forks I have rebuilt. I always break the allen bolt loose, then when it starts to turn the damper rod, I grab the upper tube with my thumb and for finger, and the lower slider with my other three fingers, then spread my fingers to create a friction of the slider pulling on the damper rod that holds it from turning while I remove the bolt. I do have to get a new grip every so often as the bolt comes out. Ehh...It works for me anyway.
                              Hi Don,
                              If you blow in the end while holding your fingers like that does it sound like a didgeridoo
                              Phil
                              1981 XS1100 H Venturer ( Addie)
                              1983 XJ 650 Maxim
                              2004 Kawasaki Concours. ( Black Bear)

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