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  • 1980 XS1100SG is a '79??

    I just went to look at what I thought was going to be a 1979 XS1100 special from a craigslist ad at a cycle shop just down the road from me. As soon as I saw it I knew it wasn't a '79 or I should say what a '79 should look like. It had a different grab bar, reflectors on the rear shocks, etc etc but the title he showed me said '79. The Serial# which began with "3J6" all matched with the tile frame and engine. I emailed him about it and he replied back that he had contacted a Yamaha dealer and they ran the VIN in their computer and said it was a 1979.5 built 4/79. I wont be buying the bike because I'm looking specifically for a 1979 but anyone ever seen this before? Is it possible a 1980 model was built that early and titled a '79? What say ye.
    1979 XS1100SF - AKA 500 Special
    Bike Pics: https://qq0u.app.link/Fcucd6JL6V

  • #2
    3J6 is an 80 Special. The only thing I can think of is it may have been a VERY EARLY 80 and still titled as a 79.

    Did it have slotted rotors and a speedometer that only went to 85 mph?
    Greg

    Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

    ― Albert Einstein

    80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

    The list changes.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BA80 View Post
      3J6 is an 80 Special. The only thing I can think of is it may have been a VERY EARLY 80 and still titled as a 79.

      Did it have slotted rotors and a speedometer that only went to 85 mph?
      Nothing new, Yamaha actually manufacturerers upcoming model the year prior. The dealers, of all people should know this. That definitely throws up a red flag as to THAT dealers actual credibility....just sayin'......
      81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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      • #4
        4/79 ?

        I doubt that the bike was built in April if it was a 1980 model. It is more than likely that the label was worn and the dealer or seller mistook a worn 7/July to be a 4. From what I have noticed the earliest 1980 specials were built in July of 1979. If you were able to get the complete VIN number you would be able to get a better idea of when the bike was built. What is more likely is that someone in the state DMV/title clerk made a mistake when typing up a new title at some point when ownership was being transferred.

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        • #5


          Gives me a lot of trust in government workers......................
          Greg

          Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

          ― Albert Einstein

          80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

          The list changes.

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          • #6
            US Models:

            Year
            Model
            Serial #
            Color(s)

            1978 XS1100E 2H7-000101 Macho Maroon
            1979 XS1100F 2H7-020101 Magenta Red, Indigo Blue
            1979 XS1100SF 3H3-000101 Carmine Red, Black Gold
            1980 XS1100G 3H5-000101 Diamond Silver, New Ruby Red
            1980 XS1100SG 3J6-000101 Black Red, New Ruby Red
            1980 XS1100LG 4H3-000101 New Yamaha Black
            1981 XS1100H 4R1-000101 Indigo Blue
            1981 XS1100SH 4R0-000101 Black Blue, Cardinal Red
            1981 XS1100LH 4W1-000001 New Yamaha Black
            1982
            XJ1100J
            10M-000101
            New Yamaha Black, New Ruby Red
            Greg

            Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

            ― Albert Einstein

            80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

            The list changes.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DCII View Post
              I doubt that the bike was built in April if it was a 1980 model. It is more than likely that the label was worn and the dealer or seller mistook a worn 7/July to be a 4. From what I have noticed the earliest 1980 specials were built in July of 1979. If you were able to get the complete VIN number you would be able to get a better idea of when the bike was built. What is more likely is that someone in the state DMV/title clerk made a mistake when typing up a new title at some point when ownership was being transferred.
              Hardly likely as vin is stamped into right-side steering neck.
              Again, actual manufacturer date is done year prior to model year.
              81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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              • #8
                Thanks for the information everyone. BTW the bike is on Ebay now! Here's the link. Still listed as a 1979.


                http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-XS-YA...US_motorcycles
                1979 XS1100SF - AKA 500 Special
                Bike Pics: https://qq0u.app.link/Fcucd6JL6V

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                • #9
                  No doubt about it, that's an 80 SG.
                  Greg

                  Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                  ― Albert Einstein

                  80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                  The list changes.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BA80 View Post
                    No doubt about it, that's an 80 SG.
                    Hi Greg,
                    I'd say that almost all of it was an SG.
                    Note that the rear brake disk ain't slotted so it's rear wheel could be an orphan. Also, the bars, mirrors and exhaust are aftermarket but that tends to happen with a 34 year old bike.
                    None of the photos show the gauge faces so we don't know if it's still got the 85 mph speedo.
                    However, it looks to be in good shape. Why does Tony insist that the XS11 he's looking to buy has to be a '79?
                    Fred Hill, S'toon
                    XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                    "The Flying Pumpkin"

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                    • #11
                      Fred- Prob's the same reason why I'd never want to buy anything but a '78/'79 standard. To each his own.
                      1979 XS1100F
                      2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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                      • #12
                        The rear wheel, in addition to having the standard rotor also has bead locks, dead giveaway. 17" standard rear wheel. 34 year old Franken-Bike?

                        My project that I recently acquired, came with a ton of spare parts, including a spare motor. Both motors are early Standards, the spare is seized. I have finally gotten most of the bike sorted.

                        http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41106

                        I too have the 17" rear, converted for tubeless. I am adding the Euro foot pegs and shifter. but for the most part it is '80 SG.

                        My apologies for thread jacking.

                        Peace, Wolf
                        80 SG
                        81 Midnight Special (R.I.P.)

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                        • #13
                          80 sg

                          I sent them an email and told them all the things that flagged 1980SG
                          now they say its an 1980 titled as a 1979 but they say it can be changed.
                          79 SF

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                          • #14
                            big red flag!!!!
                            Greg

                            Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                            ― Albert Einstein

                            80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                            The list changes.

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                            • #15
                              Hey Tplank

                              You may not have time, but I sent the Yamaha Mother-ship in the UK the S/N for my frame and engine (mine are completely different) and they gave me a reply as the which year they were built.

                              www.yamaha-motor.co.uk

                              cust.service@yamaha-motor.co.uk

                              Best of luck...

                              Peace, Wolf
                              80 SG
                              81 Midnight Special (R.I.P.)

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