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  • Wire rear wheel for XS11... I have an idea.

    Has anyone checked the hub bolt spacing on a gl1000 gold wing?

    They have the same number of bolts as the XS1100. If they don't match but are close, there may be a way to do this by welding the original holes and re drilling.

    Another way would be to fabricate a double drilled flange with both spacing patterns.

    Anyone have a 75-77 rear wheel from a gl1000- to measure?

    Of course then there is the disc brake problem... But, hey, I do like a challenge.
    Living to EXcess.
    1978 XS1100E Canadian, Cartridge emulators, NOS heavy duty fork springs,
    Showa rear shocks, ACCT, Jardine 4-2 spaghetti pipes.
    1979 XS1100F Canadian, stock exhaust. Top end rebuild in progress.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Orange4 View Post
    Has anyone checked the hub bolt spacing on a gl1000 gold wing?

    They have the same number of bolts as the XS1100. If they don't match but are close, there may be a way to do this by welding the original holes and re drilling.

    Another way would be to fabricate a double drilled flange with both spacing patterns.

    Anyone have a 75-77 rear wheel from a gl1000- to measure?

    Of course then there is the disc brake problem... But, hey, I do like a challenge.
    Challange?........close isn't good enough. Farther apart spacing would be better. The disc mount would be the easy part. In a nut shell, sounds like a death wish, unless your a professional fabricater by trade. Could make some suggestions, but would'nt want the liability. All I can say is good luck with the project.
    81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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    • #3
      I think you'd be better off with a custom American frame. Then adapt a XS11 motor into it with a chain drive conversion. You'd be like the Black Widows gang leader in Every Which Way but Loose. One of my all time favorites. Do you know how any people get bit by black widows every year?
      "The Hooligan" XJ1100, Virago Gauge Pods, Screaming Eagle Mufflers, K&N Filter, hand made rear fender, side covers, and solo seat, round bar conversion, small headlight, tail light, and cat eye turn signals, chip fuses, rewired the right way.

      Pics: http://s1236.photobucket.com/user/ya...?sort=6&page=1

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      • #4
        I am a professional fabricator.

        A properly fabricated double drilled flange would be just as strong as the original mounting arrangement. There may be offset issues but it would be a lot simpler and cheaper arrangement than what has been suggested before involving machining an existing hub and welding on spoke flanges. Ever tig weld cast aluminum? Not fun. Especially thin to thick.

        A gl1000 hub would be strong enough. Mate that with the right rim and stainless spokes and you'd have wire looks without resorting to trolling for a Japan only GX750 hub.

        Anyone have a gl1000 hub to measure?

        You'd be like the Black Widows gang leader in Every Which Way but Loose
        LOL. I am the Black Widows gang leader. Mind your porch!
        Living to EXcess.
        1978 XS1100E Canadian, Cartridge emulators, NOS heavy duty fork springs,
        Showa rear shocks, ACCT, Jardine 4-2 spaghetti pipes.
        1979 XS1100F Canadian, stock exhaust. Top end rebuild in progress.

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        • #5
          It's been done....... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...eel#post339921
          Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

          '78E original owner - resto project
          '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
          '82 XJ rebuild project
          '80SG restified, red SOLD
          '79F parts...
          '81H more parts...

          Other current bikes:
          '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
          '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
          '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
          Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
          Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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          • #6
            Yeah, I saw that thread and that bike looks nice! One of the reasons I started thinking about a simpler way.
            Living to EXcess.
            1978 XS1100E Canadian, Cartridge emulators, NOS heavy duty fork springs,
            Showa rear shocks, ACCT, Jardine 4-2 spaghetti pipes.
            1979 XS1100F Canadian, stock exhaust. Top end rebuild in progress.

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            • #7
              Will a Virago wheel swap with the XS1100? If it does, you can swap with a XV700 wheel.



              An XV700 wheel was swapped in here.

              Marty (in Mississippi)
              XS1100SG
              XS650SK
              XS650SH
              XS650G
              XS6502F
              XS650E

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Orange4 View Post
                I am a professional fabricator.

                A properly fabricated double drilled flange would be just as strong as the original mounting arrangement. There may be offset issues but it would be a lot simpler and cheaper arrangement than what has been suggested before involving machining an existing hub and welding on spoke flanges. Ever tig weld cast aluminum? Not fun. Especially thin to thick.

                A gl1000 hub would be strong enough. Mate that with the right rim and stainless spokes and you'd have wire looks without resorting to trolling for a Japan only GX750 hub.

                Anyone have a gl1000 hub to measure?



                LOL. I am the Black Widows gang leader. Mind your porch!
                Have done the cast aluminum thing tig once............even 30+yrs, certified, it'll make you crazy questioning your own ability......never again. Back to subject, guessin' directional loads would'nt matter since the wings shaftie is on right side?
                81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jetmechmarty View Post
                  Will a Virago wheel swap with the XS1100? If it does, you can swap with a XV700 wheel.

                  OOPS! Drum brake. Doh!
                  Marty (in Mississippi)
                  XS1100SG
                  XS650SK
                  XS650SH
                  XS650G
                  XS6502F
                  XS650E

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                  • #10
                    it'll make you crazy

                    What does that say about head rebuilders, I wonder. They would be the guys to do it if you wanted it done.

                    guessin' directional loads would'nt matter since the wings shaftie is on right side?
                    It took me a couple seconds more than I like to admit before I realized it doesn't matter that the wing shaft is on the right. *Flip* Yeah, I think spoke rims don't care which way they spin.

                    OOPS! Drum brake. Doh!
                    You had me going for a minute there! Yeeeeah, not a downgrade I'd be comfortable with.
                    Last edited by Orange4; 09-04-2013, 10:01 PM.
                    Living to EXcess.
                    1978 XS1100E Canadian, Cartridge emulators, NOS heavy duty fork springs,
                    Showa rear shocks, ACCT, Jardine 4-2 spaghetti pipes.
                    1979 XS1100F Canadian, stock exhaust. Top end rebuild in progress.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Orange4 View Post
                      - - I am a professional fabricator. - -
                      Hi Marcus and welcome,
                      I swapped wire wheels into my '84 XS650 Heritage Special.
                      On the XS650 it's an easy swap. Bolt in, bolt out.
                      Then I had pretty wire wheels instead of artillery wheels.
                      OK, they look nicer.
                      But
                      They can't run tubeless tires so you gotta put tubes in them.
                      And keeping them clean is a bitch.
                      Now the wire wheels are on my son's XS650 and he can keep the darn things clean.
                      Fred Hill, S'toon
                      XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                      "The Flying Pumpkin"

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                      • #12
                        You might want to look at Harley rear wheels; they used 'assembled/welded' steel hubs up until about '97 and are all disc brake hubs from the late 70s up. Can be gotten fairly cheaply, new rims/spokes are cheap and easy to get. Rather than trying to modify some aluminum drum brake hub...
                        Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                        '78E original owner - resto project
                        '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                        '82 XJ rebuild project
                        '80SG restified, red SOLD
                        '79F parts...
                        '81H more parts...

                        Other current bikes:
                        '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                        '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                        '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                        Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                        Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                        • #13
                          Thanks for the welcome.

                          On the XS650 it's an easy swap. Bolt in, bolt out.
                          Rub it in why don't you

                          And keeping them clean is a bitch.
                          Now the wire wheels are on my son's XS650 and he can keep the darn things clean.
                          I'm like your son... I like to polish. I'm wired that way.

                          Will check out Harley wheels.
                          Living to EXcess.
                          1978 XS1100E Canadian, Cartridge emulators, NOS heavy duty fork springs,
                          Showa rear shocks, ACCT, Jardine 4-2 spaghetti pipes.
                          1979 XS1100F Canadian, stock exhaust. Top end rebuild in progress.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Orange4 View Post
                            Thanks for the welcome.
                            Rub it in why don't you
                            I'm like your son... I like to polish. I'm wired that way.
                            Will check out Harley wheels.
                            Hi Marcus,
                            not rubbing it in, just saying - - - Mind you, a person wanting a rear disk brake wire wheel for an XS650 is also SOL and is in DIY territory.
                            You will eventually get sick of polishing but until then, Solvol Autosol is your friend.
                            And, I dunno why Steve recommends Harley rear wheels, they all got sprockets on them, eh?
                            Which leads to chain drive conversions and as the biggest sprocket that'll fit is a 13T and the smallest that'll run good is a 15T, IMHO don't bother.
                            my recommendation for an XS11 rear wire wheel is turn an XS11 wheel hub into as big a plain cylinder as you can.
                            Turn up a spoke-flanged spool that's a 0.002 clearance and stick the bugger on with red Loctite.
                            Fred Hill, S'toon
                            XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                            "The Flying Pumpkin"

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by fredintoon View Post
                              ...And, I dunno why Steve recommends Harley rear wheels, they all got sprockets on them, eh?
                              Only because a steel hub is much easier to weld on....
                              Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                              '78E original owner - resto project
                              '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                              '82 XJ rebuild project
                              '80SG restified, red SOLD
                              '79F parts...
                              '81H more parts...

                              Other current bikes:
                              '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                              '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                              '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                              Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                              Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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