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  • BA80
    Doctor of XSology
    • Oct 2010
    • 9980
    • Tulsa, Ok

    #31
    Take a plug and connect it to the SP wire, each 1 at a time, hold the body of the plug against the finns to ground it and turn over the engine. It should spark.

    You might get a little jolt but that'll just get your heart restarted.
    Greg

    Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

    ― Albert Einstein

    80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

    The list changes.

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    • dondons1984
      Truly XSive
      • Jun 2013
      • 153
      • Walla Walla, Wash.

      #32
      I was told not to do that. That I can fry my coils.
      79 SF

      Wow, did I just give advice? should I be doing that?

      1983 GL1100 bored to a 1300 sold
      1976cb750 project gifted to brother
      1979 xs1100s currently working on


      Wanting to have that head turner that makes people shut up!

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      • BA80
        Doctor of XSology
        • Oct 2010
        • 9980
        • Tulsa, Ok

        #33
        Bull****!
        Greg

        Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

        ― Albert Einstein

        80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

        The list changes.

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        • jwhughes3
          XS-XJ Guru
          • Sep 2009
          • 2798
          • Home of the Alamo

          #34
          Originally posted by dondons1984
          I was told not to do that. That I can fry my coils.
          I think they are confused. What greg describes is exactly what the plug in your bike is or should be doing.

          Running one wire loose and another connected will potentially damage your coils.

          John
          John is in an anonymous city with an Alamo (N29.519227,W-98.678980)

          Go ahead, click on the bikes - you know you want to...the electrons are ready.
          '81 XS1100H - "Enterprise"
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          • BA80
            Doctor of XSology
            • Oct 2010
            • 9980
            • Tulsa, Ok

            #35
            Originally posted by jwhughes3
            I think they are confused. What greg describes is exactly what the plug in your bike is or should be doing.

            Running one wire loose and another connected will potentially damage your coils.

            John
            I've never damaged one and I've never heard of one being damaged that way during a test like this. It would have to be run that way for an extended time to even POTENTIALLY damage one.
            Greg

            Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

            ― Albert Einstein

            80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

            The list changes.

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            • dondons1984
              Truly XSive
              • Jun 2013
              • 153
              • Walla Walla, Wash.

              #36
              On so I just did the plug test and I got nothing. No jolt no spark nada. So what now? Please don't say new coils
              79 SF

              Wow, did I just give advice? should I be doing that?

              1983 GL1100 bored to a 1300 sold
              1976cb750 project gifted to brother
              1979 xs1100s currently working on


              Wanting to have that head turner that makes people shut up!

              Comment

              • BA80
                Doctor of XSology
                • Oct 2010
                • 9980
                • Tulsa, Ok

                #37
                Check all of you connectors from the pickups on up to the TCI and everything in between. Be sure all are clean and are making good contact. especially those behind the fuse panel. The same with all the fuses.

                9 times out of 10 it's simply a bad connection somewhere.

                There are bullet connectors at the coils also and if that isn't the issue try unplugging the tip over switch. Coil connections and tip over are under the tank.
                Last edited by BA80; 06-29-2013, 11:54 AM.
                Greg

                Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                ― Albert Einstein

                80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                The list changes.

                Comment

                • dondons1984
                  Truly XSive
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 153
                  • Walla Walla, Wash.

                  #38
                  OK I am going to do that. You keep saying tci but what is that? Where is it located?
                  79 SF

                  Wow, did I just give advice? should I be doing that?

                  1983 GL1100 bored to a 1300 sold
                  1976cb750 project gifted to brother
                  1979 xs1100s currently working on


                  Wanting to have that head turner that makes people shut up!

                  Comment

                  • BA80
                    Doctor of XSology
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 9980
                    • Tulsa, Ok

                    #39
                    Originally posted by dondons1984
                    OK I am going to do that. You keep saying tci but what is that? Where is it located?
                    Transistor Controlled Ignition ( TCI )

                    The black box under the seat.
                    Greg

                    Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                    ― Albert Einstein

                    80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                    The list changes.

                    Comment

                    • dondons1984
                      Truly XSive
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 153
                      • Walla Walla, Wash.

                      #40
                      OK the connections look fine and the board looks brand new
                      79 SF

                      Wow, did I just give advice? should I be doing that?

                      1983 GL1100 bored to a 1300 sold
                      1976cb750 project gifted to brother
                      1979 xs1100s currently working on


                      Wanting to have that head turner that makes people shut up!

                      Comment

                      • dondons1984
                        Truly XSive
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 153
                        • Walla Walla, Wash.

                        #41
                        Originally posted by dondons1984
                        OK the connections look fine and the board looks brand new
                        OK so this is going to sound retarded but when I go to start the oil light is on and then when I crank it goes off
                        79 SF

                        Wow, did I just give advice? should I be doing that?

                        1983 GL1100 bored to a 1300 sold
                        1976cb750 project gifted to brother
                        1979 xs1100s currently working on


                        Wanting to have that head turner that makes people shut up!

                        Comment

                        • BA80
                          Doctor of XSology
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 9980
                          • Tulsa, Ok

                          #42
                          That's OK. When you crank it the oil pump is pumping and the oil pressure kicks off the light. Normal.

                          At the coil connections there is an orange wire going to one coil and a gray wire going to the other. You should have voltage to both of those wires with the ignition on.
                          Greg

                          Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                          ― Albert Einstein

                          80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                          The list changes.

                          Comment

                          • dondons1984
                            Truly XSive
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 153
                            • Walla Walla, Wash.

                            #43
                            OK what am I setting my multimeter to to check that? Also how do I bench test the coils? I don't wanna buy new coils if I can avoid it.
                            79 SF

                            Wow, did I just give advice? should I be doing that?

                            1983 GL1100 bored to a 1300 sold
                            1976cb750 project gifted to brother
                            1979 xs1100s currently working on


                            Wanting to have that head turner that makes people shut up!

                            Comment

                            • BA80
                              Doctor of XSology
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 9980
                              • Tulsa, Ok

                              #44
                              Just check for voltage right now, don't go to thinking about bad coils.

                              It should be at least at or near 12v and stay above 10.5 while cranking the engine.
                              Greg

                              Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                              ― Albert Einstein

                              80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                              The list changes.

                              Comment

                              • dondons1984
                                Truly XSive
                                • Jun 2013
                                • 153
                                • Walla Walla, Wash.

                                #45
                                OK so I setmy multi meter two bolts or ohms?
                                79 SF

                                Wow, did I just give advice? should I be doing that?

                                1983 GL1100 bored to a 1300 sold
                                1976cb750 project gifted to brother
                                1979 xs1100s currently working on


                                Wanting to have that head turner that makes people shut up!

                                Comment

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