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    I'm in the process of rebuilding my carbs ~~ 3rd time in about 20 years ~~ 10 years since last rebuild. The carb kits that I've got are from georgefix (eBay), and are the best quality out there IMO (K&L). I wasn't able to find the K&Ls available, and for the right price, for the 78 or 79 carb types with the 42.5 pilots; so these came with the "45" size. They're 6 hole and the ones that are still in my carbs before rebuild and disassembly start, are 42.5 size (also 6 hole type) pilot. The machine that I've had for 21 years (daily ride) is an 81 Special; the set of carbs that are the "earlier type" with the brass floats et al, had been installed by PO. I have a separate , extra set of carbs; also 79 year; same type carbs as the ones I'm about to rebuild. My question is ~~ if I install the new "45" size pilots, instead of re-installing the "42.5" size pilots ~~ wondering what performance change I might expect? Curious if there's anybody out there , riding around with the "45 pilots" I am also installing new carb boots; they definitely look top OEM type quality; that I also got from georgefix. I'm going to get the Morgan Carbtune to synchonize with this time, although I still have the MotionPro "mercury-type" (hadn't used it since last carb rebuild on this machine)..................
    JCarltonRiggs

    81XS1100SH; WorkingMotorcycle,Not For Show,DeletedFairing,SportsterHL,
    7½ gal. Kaw Concours gastank,1972 Wixom Bros. bags

    79XS1100F; ?Parts?, or to Restore?

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    The '78 came with 45 pilots and 210 air jets.
    Nathan
    KD9ARL

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    1978 XS1100E
    K&N Filter
    #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
    OEM Exhaust
    ATK Fork Brace
    LED Dash lights
    Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

    Green Monster Coils
    SS Brake Lines
    Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

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    • #3
      Originally posted by natemoen View Post
      The '78 came with 45 pilots and 210 air jets.
      Ok; thanks for the input ~~ reminded me to look here~~>http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73
      JCarltonRiggs

      81XS1100SH; WorkingMotorcycle,Not For Show,DeletedFairing,SportsterHL,
      7½ gal. Kaw Concours gastank,1972 Wixom Bros. bags

      79XS1100F; ?Parts?, or to Restore?

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      • #4
        That table is not correct though because it does not show the 210 air jet along with it.. I think you probably need the 210 air jet along with the 45 pilot jet.
        Nathan
        KD9ARL

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        1978 XS1100E
        K&N Filter
        #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
        OEM Exhaust
        ATK Fork Brace
        LED Dash lights
        Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

        Green Monster Coils
        SS Brake Lines
        Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

        In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

        Theodore Roosevelt

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        • #5
          I run the 45 PJ with the 180 air jet in my 79, no problems, bike runs strong, 40 mpg. YMMV. I have 4-1 exhaust and drilled airbox/K&N.
          2H7 (79) owned since '89
          3H3 owned since '06

          "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
            I run the 45 PJ with the 180 air jet in my 79, no problems, bike runs strong, 40 mpg. YMMV. I have 4-1 exhaust and drilled airbox/K&N.
            These new K&L kits that have the 45.0 pilot, came with new 180 air jet.
            JCarltonRiggs

            81XS1100SH; WorkingMotorcycle,Not For Show,DeletedFairing,SportsterHL,
            7½ gal. Kaw Concours gastank,1972 Wixom Bros. bags

            79XS1100F; ?Parts?, or to Restore?

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            • #7
              The 45's should be fine, worst case scenario, switch back to the 42.5's.
              2H7 (79) owned since '89
              3H3 owned since '06

              "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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              • #8
                Pilots

                I went to the 45 pilot and 210 main jets in a 79 Special that had the smaller 42.5 and 180. I like the performance of the bigger jets. I agree with bikerphil that the 45 pilot and 180 jets would be just fine as well.

                I lost maybe 3 mpg after the swap, but like I said, the performance/throttle response is better. If I were to change again I would likely go back to the 180 mains and keep the 45 pilots.

                The later smaller jets were mainly considerations for less "better" emissions required by the US.

                MP
                1981 XS1100H Venturer
                K&N Air Filter
                ACCT
                Custom Paint by Deitz
                Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
                Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
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