79F headers/pipes on 80G?

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  • Bonz
    XS-XJ Super Guru
    • Apr 2008
    • 3206
    • Palmer Lake, Colorado

    #1

    79F headers/pipes on 80G?

    Question:

    Any reason a full stock exhaust system from a 79F won't work on an 80G?

    Plug and play?

    I know there is some differnce in where each exhaust header mates to the engine between some models, like the length of the portion that butts up against the exhaust gasket is different or something. Any issues like that in this case?

    Thanks.
    Howard

    ZRX1200

    BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462
  • crazy steve
    XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
    • Jan 2009
    • 7932
    • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

    #2
    Just one issue.... look at pic 11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37191

    I'm not 100% sure when Yamaha made this change (only the 80, or did they start in late 79?) but your '80 exhaust studs will likely be too short. But other than that, the systems will interchange.
    Last edited by crazy steve; 05-02-2013, 01:02 PM.
    Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

    '78E original owner - resto project
    '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
    '82 XJ rebuild project
    '80SG restified, red SOLD
    '79F parts...
    '81H more parts...

    Other current bikes:
    '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
    '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
    '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
    Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
    Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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    • Bonz
      XS-XJ Super Guru
      • Apr 2008
      • 3206
      • Palmer Lake, Colorado

      #3
      YES! The issue I was talking about is the flange length, and your info showed me why that makes a difference.

      What is the remedy for too short studs? I mean, anything besides replacing them? What kind of ordeal is replacing them?
      Howard

      ZRX1200

      BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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      • crazy steve
        XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
        • Jan 2009
        • 7932
        • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

        #4
        Originally posted by Bonz
        What is the remedy for too short studs? I mean, anything besides replacing them? What kind of ordeal is replacing them?
        All you can do is replace; the difference is enough that the short ones won't 'stretch' enough to make it....

        As far as how hard it will be to change them, hard to tell. I'd try double-nutting them first and carefully try to turn them out, but these have been known to break off. If they seem stubborn, some heat and penetrating oil is the next step....
        Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

        '78E original owner - resto project
        '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
        '82 XJ rebuild project
        '80SG restified, red SOLD
        '79F parts...
        '81H more parts...

        Other current bikes:
        '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
        '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
        '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
        Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
        Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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        • Bonz
          XS-XJ Super Guru
          • Apr 2008
          • 3206
          • Palmer Lake, Colorado

          #5
          Well, heck's bells... Found a nice 79 Std stock exhaust and was thinking of putting on my 80G that I grafted Harley muff's onto recently.

          Doesn't sound like it's worth $200 to me at this point.
          Howard

          ZRX1200

          BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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          • crazy steve
            XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
            • Jan 2009
            • 7932
            • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

            #6
            Originally posted by Bonz
            Doesn't sound like it's worth $200 to me at this point.
            A nice OEM exhaust for 200 is a steal....
            Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

            '78E original owner - resto project
            '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
            '82 XJ rebuild project
            '80SG restified, red SOLD
            '79F parts...
            '81H more parts...

            Other current bikes:
            '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
            '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
            '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
            Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
            Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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            • Bonz
              XS-XJ Super Guru
              • Apr 2008
              • 3206
              • Palmer Lake, Colorado

              #7
              heh, heh, heh..

              I asked for a few more pics, but looks good so far... Other than the stud length issue we talked about already.
              Howard

              ZRX1200

              BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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              • crazy steve
                XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
                • Jan 2009
                • 7932
                • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

                #8
                Keep in mind if your inner two 'short flange' pipes are in good shape you can use those and only have to change the outer studs...
                Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                '78E original owner - resto project
                '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                '82 XJ rebuild project
                '80SG restified, red SOLD
                '79F parts...
                '81H more parts...

                Other current bikes:
                '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                • skids
                  XS-XJ Super Guru
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 5050
                  • Florissant, CO, USA

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bonz
                  Well, heck's bells... Found a nice 79 Std stock exhaust and was thinking of putting on my 80G that I grafted Harley muff's onto recently.

                  Doesn't sound like it's worth $200 to me at this point.
                  If the baffles and the rest of the exhaust are in good shape, DON'T HACK IT. The engineered exhaust is as good as it gets. If you put Harley exhaust muffs on, you will be disappointed if you want it to sound like a Harley...also the mid range will suffer or other ranges if you try to compensate. This was my experience, but the guts of my OEM muffs were gone.
                  Skids (Sid Hansen)

                  Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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