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  • Nightengale
    XSive Maximus
    • Jun 2011
    • 521
    • Hampton, VA.

    #1

    exhaust wrap

    i am trying to do some finishing touches on my bike, and one of the things that i didnt really do anything with was the exhaust. so i have finally made up my mind on what i want to do. i am going to wrap it with a white exhaust wrap and have chrome turnout tips. and for those that know what i have done with my bike i have ordered baffles as well. i was just wondering if anyone on here has used exhaust wrap. i will post pics as soon as i begin. all i have left to get are the new nuts for the exhaust flanges, mine are in pretty rough shape. then i can get started. as with everything that i have done to my bike, i have done all my research and know what i have to do to do the warp. any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.
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  • XS1100_OEM4ME
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Mar 2009
    • 1619
    • Fort Myers, Florida

    #2
    Wrap

    Originally posted by Nightengale
    i am trying to do some finishing touches on my bike, and one of the things that i didnt really do anything with was the exhaust. so i have finally made up my mind on what i want to do. i am going to wrap it with a white exhaust wrap and have chrome turnout tips. and for those that know what i have done with my bike i have ordered baffles as well. i was just wondering if anyone on here has used exhaust wrap. i will post pics as soon as i begin. all i have left to get are the new nuts for the exhaust flanges, mine are in pretty rough shape. then i can get started. as with everything that i have done to my bike, i have done all my research and know what i have to do to do the warp. any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.
    One of the +'s is insalation, the down side is the burn in is very stinky I have not used them myself, but have read of those who have. They keep the heat inside the exaust and off your legs, nice, but in an air colled motor, the faster the heat can escape the motor the better JIMHO, but I still hope many others here will pipe up with why I am "WRONG" and we can start "measuring Johnsons" again, oh what fun
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    • motoman
      Master of XSology
      • Aug 2005
      • 8413
      • Grand Junction, Colorado

      #3
      Originally posted by Nightengale
      i am trying to do some finishing touches on my bike, and one of the things that i didnt really do anything with was the exhaust. so i have finally made up my mind on what i want to do. i am going to wrap it with a white exhaust wrap and have chrome turnout tips. and for those that know what i have done with my bike i have ordered baffles as well. i was just wondering if anyone on here has used exhaust wrap. i will post pics as soon as i begin. all i have left to get are the new nuts for the exhaust flanges, mine are in pretty rough shape. then i can get started. as with everything that i have done to my bike, i have done all my research and know what i have to do to do the warp. any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.
      That wrap pertains to the racers world and has more to do with holding heat in CERTAIN exhaust designs for scavenging effects. Secondly, I notice your location and with those exhaust wrapped, they'll rust under the wrap from drawing moisture when cooling off..I could give you a whole bunch of downside reason not too. Better to fine sand them and paint with a HIGH quality heat paint if too strapped for the bucks to have them powder coated.
      81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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      • Nightengale
        XSive Maximus
        • Jun 2011
        • 521
        • Hampton, VA.

        #4
        looks

        Originally posted by motoman
        That wrap pertains to the racers world and has more to do with holding heat in CERTAIN exhaust designs for scavenging effects. Secondly, I notice your location and with those exhaust wrapped, they'll rust under the wrap from drawing moisture when cooling off..I could give you a whole bunch of downside reason not too. Better to fine sand them and paint with a HIGH quality heat paint if too strapped for the bucks to have them powder coated.
        I'm doing the wrap for looks, to go with the style a bike that I made. I was thinking about painting them with high heat paint, then wrapping them. Would this work or would it affect anything.
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        • Courtney
          XSive Maximus
          • Jul 2002
          • 542
          • Nanaimo BC Canada

          #5
          I used to wrap the headers on my Hi-Per VW engines (air-cooled Bug) knowing they would rust to crap within 1 year up here in B.C. Because they were S&S thin-wall headers they weren't expensive to replace so it was a tradeoff to keep the heat down in the engine compartment. The wrap seemed to cause condensation/moisture under it, and really encouraged rusting. If I didn't wrap the headers, they lasted way way longer.
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          • Yahman
            XSive Maximus
            • Mar 2008
            • 779
            • Salem, OR

            #6
            I warped the pipes on the 79 Special that I built last year. I used Lava Wrap, it's easier to work with and lasts longer than the fiberglass stuff.







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            • Courtney
              XSive Maximus
              • Jul 2002
              • 542
              • Nanaimo BC Canada

              #7
              Nice job indeed.
              Bone stock 1980 Special except for the exhaust and crashbars. Oh yeah, and the scabbard for the Winchester Defender.

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              • sparkfly88
                XSive Maximus
                • Mar 2013
                • 585
                • CedarKey FL

                #8
                Originally posted by Yahman
                I warped the pipes on the 79 Special that I built last year. I used Lava Wrap, it's easier to work with and lasts longer than the fiberglass stuff.
                Ride safe,
                Larry

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                • Rasputin
                  XS-XJ Super Guru
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 3177
                  • Lacombe, Alberta, Canada

                  #9
                  To be honest I would check out a harley or forum for the best info on this subject. A lot of those guys use the wrap and have experience with installation. From what my buddy told me about his installation it is hard to get it tight enough to make a really nice job. The stink when starting the bike is really bad and the rust issue is why he no longer runs wrap.
                  Myself I have no experience with it and I have never been on a harley forum, but they do have a world full of members and many who are into choppers and wrapped exhaust and etc.
                  Not to say the guys here do not know about it, but you may get a better idea from a larger group. JAT
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                  • motoman
                    Master of XSology
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 8413
                    • Grand Junction, Colorado

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Nightengale
                    I'm doing the wrap for looks, to go with the style a bike that I made. I was thinking about painting them with high heat paint, then wrapping them. Would this work or would it affect anything.
                    Ougha' be fine, just ride it a couple times prior to wrapping to 'set' the paint with a few heat and cool cycles.
                    81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                    • crazy steve
                      XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 7932
                      • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rasputin
                      To be honest I would check out a harley or forum for the best info on this subject. A lot of those guys use the wrap and have experience with installation. From what my buddy told me about his installation it is hard to get it tight enough to make a really nice job. The stink when starting the bike is really bad and the rust issue is why he no longer runs wrap.
                      Being a Harley owner too, I've been on various HD forums and yes, the wrap does stink when new and after getting wet and promotes rust under it. One thing to keep in mind, the tubing used on most XS exhaust systems isn't all that thick and rust-through could be a very real issue.
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                      • MaximPhil
                        XS-XJ Super Guru
                        • May 2004
                        • 4119
                        • Mississauga, ON CANADA

                        #12
                        hi Nightengale,
                        If despite the warnings you want to wrap.
                        Soak the material in water and keep good tension on it as you wrap. You will need quite a lot as you overlap each turn. My experience was on 3 or 4 inch relatively straight pipes the tight curves are going to be more difficult. I always covered mine with Stainless tying wire which held it securely in place. Another option to consider is Ceramic coating. It comes in white and various other colours and looks nice too.
                        Phil
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                        • Nightengale
                          XSive Maximus
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 521
                          • Hampton, VA.

                          #13
                          new exhaust tips

                          i was thinking of using the spray on coating for the wrap as well.
                          i just got in my exhaust tips in today, i am planning on wrapping the pipes up to the tip which starts around where the foot peg is.
                          tried the tips on for size, and to see how they look.




                          i like how they look. kind of hot rod looking.
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