barnett clutch frictions

[Rasputin]

Ok maybe I am the only one not buying your story but I will be the first to ask. If you are at only 100-120 HP and you can spin a rear tire at 120KPH or roughly 70MPH due to all your Horsepower with a 7 pound boost, Then why cant the rest of us do it at much lower speeds with only 3-20 less horsepower?
I go over the 260 mark a bit but I do not believe you can do what you say unless you are riding on ice instead of damp roads.
Sure more than doubling the bikes original HP may possibly be achieved but without a pure racing platform the story does not hold water. Post up some pics or video's of this so we can see what your bike looks like, and how it performs. Not that hard to get a buddy to video you while rocketing up to a zillion miles an hour in less than 2 seconds! Or going past him and spinning a rear tire at 70 MPH.
I have friends with many hours of track time racing who are running higher horses than you who cry BS. Prove me/them wrong!

[XS1100_OEM4ME]

Just threw it together in december, and the roads have been wet so its been a little drawn out... That and working out other things... I do plan on racing it this year, and I dont think its making 200 hp with 7 psi. Probably closer to 100-120. But the turbo can make about 200 hp, and I would like to try to up the boost if I can get the chassis to handle the power a bit better. And the more I bust into this clutch the wrinklier the nut lock gets and im probably too cheap to buy one sooo... lol Just did the barnett springs spaced with spark plug washers, it holds more, but not enough... Holds enough to spin the rear on damp roads at 120kph with my fat ass on it... So more than enough for most n/a situations I would say...

Thanks for the interest, btw...

I love to here some of the stuff that guys do with these, I like OEM and as an old man, I don't have the guts for wheelies and foot peg draging in the turns, that i used to have but it is cool to see some still kicking and taking names, love to hear more as you go

[onefour]

Ok maybe I am the only one not buying your story but I will be the first to ask. If you are at only 100-120 HP and you can spin a rear tire at 120KPH or roughly 70MPH due to all your Horsepower with a 7 pound boost, Then why cant the rest of us do it at much lower speeds with only 3-20 less horsepower?
I go over the 260 mark a bit but I do not believe you can do what you say unless you are riding on ice instead of damp roads.
Sure more than doubling the bikes original HP may possibly be achieved but without a pure racing platform the story does not hold water. Post up some pics or video's of this so we can see what your bike looks like, and how it performs. Not that hard to get a buddy to video you while rocketing up to a zillion miles an hour in less than 2 seconds! Or going past him and spinning a rear tire at 70 MPH.
I have friends with many hours of track time racing who are running higher horses than you who cry BS. Prove me/them wrong!

Lots of words... lol Upset???

I said damp road. Obviously not lots of traction there right? 130 pretty much bald tire... Maybe a 1/16th tread depth in the middle?

Also, maybe I should remind people AGAIN that I JUST threw this together. Like 2 months ago... Not a lot of test and tune time... Never mind track time.

I've never had this bike over 180ish kph. Not my cup of tea. Roll on power wheelies is tho, on the other hand. But apparently not with this bike! (does first count? Nah...)

A little math... Im no mathematician... 7 psi, half atmosphere.
70rwhp naturally aspirated. Plus halfish depending on how the head flows etc... 105 hp... But, dont know if you've ever driven a turbo vehicle, but torque is what gets one along...

Anyways, you can believe what you want. All I can say is, try it before you knock it, doesnt take that much effort, all the info is available on the interweb... Thats how I figured it out...

Anyways, you poked hard enough for an untuned first ride vid. I dont have any recent ones with the clutch springs or even since I opened the mains up so it wouldnt bog out at wot... And for everybodies info, I'm running stock timing with 94 octane pump gas.

http://youtu.be/DnQu6PxxRS0

http://youtu.be/OuScF4Qm0aQ

Turn it all the way up!!!!

[petejw]

Diesel rated 15-40. Fine for a wet clutch. Changed the oil to bike specific oil a couple times before I didnt know about oil ratings and it was the same story... Just more money for the same thing....

But anyways, lets not turn this thread into an oil discussion thread

lol
never had the intention of doing that,
just a lot of cases with slipping clutches
have the wrong oil in the engine
was jat.

[Rasputin]

Lots of words... lol Upset???

I said damp road. Obviously not lots of traction there right? 130 pretty much bald tire... Maybe a 1/16th tread depth in the middle?

Also, maybe I should remind people AGAIN that I JUST threw this together. Like 2 months ago... Not a lot of test and tune time... Never mind track time.

I've never had this bike over 180ish kph. Not my cup of tea. Roll on power wheelies is tho, on the other hand. But apparently not with this bike! (does first count? Nah...)

A little math... Im no mathematician... 7 psi, half atmosphere.
70rwhp naturally aspirated. Plus halfish depending on how the head flows etc... 105 hp... But, dont know if you've ever driven a turbo vehicle, but torque is what gets one along...

Anyways, you can believe what you want. All I can say is, try it before you knock it, doesnt take that much effort, all the info is available on the interweb... Thats how I figured it out...

Anyways, you poked hard enough for an untuned first ride vid. I dont have any recent ones with the clutch springs or even since I opened the mains up so it wouldnt bog out at wot... And for everybodies info, I'm running stock timing with 94 octane pump gas.

http://youtu.be/DnQu6PxxRS0

http://youtu.be/OuScF4Qm0aQ

Turn it all the way up!!!!

Ok I am looking at a wall chart I have that says the 78E has 95 HP. So where does your 70 fit in? I also have the mechanic that put my bike together 30+ years ago as a friend. He Turbo'ed his a long time ago and has many miles on it. I will ask him how much boost he he running and if he thinks your numbers are correct.
I know it is a hot bike and he only will bring it out on special occasions but his every day job is still a mechanic on motorcycles.
I for one seriously doubt your claims and if I am the only one then so be it. We are a family that loves these bikes but people who can not or will not back up their claims are frowned upon. Show us some track times or Dyno numbers. Hell I can pass through a video looking like I was flying at 20 MPH.
You can bull**** your friends and I will bull**** mine but lets not bull**** each other.,

[skids]

Well you got to give a guy some credit for mods like that to make a faster bike! The numbers come later and if it is significantly faster than stock, the thrill factor is what counts.

[Rasputin]

Yes credit is due where credit is due. If the numbers dont match with reality then we all have to give credit to anyone who claims a number...right. Try to spin your back wheel at 70 MPH with only a tad bit less HP than he claims. Won't do it will it?
Ever checked your clutch lock nut ands seen it be wrinklier? Ever been too cheap to make a 200 HP XS11 but not buy a new one if it needed it?
Ever thanked Geezer for a spoon feeding?
These are only from this thread. The guy is fantasizing about having a 13 inch Cock when he has 2 inches.
I give up! Keep on typing and posting this crap i will just quit reading it.

[XS1100_OEM4ME]

I was trying to be kind, (I know, not the old me, but we can all change) If you could get a XS1100 to 120HP, that would be a 30% increase in HP. It is cool that a fellow XS'er is doing some mod'd and tweeking HP the best thay can, that is whay I would love to hear the track #'s when he gets some, to see what he is getting out of his set up. Getting one of these aniiques in the 10's would be doing something, and something to be proud of Love to hear more as you go

[CaptonZap]

Yes credit is due where credit is due. If the numbers dont match with reality then we all have to give credit to anyone who claims a number...right. Try to spin your back wheel at 70 MPH with only a tad bit less HP than he claims. Won't do it will it?
Ever checked your clutch lock nut ands seen it be wrinklier? Ever been too cheap to make a 200 HP XS11 but not buy a new one if it needed it?
Ever thanked Geezer for a spoon feeding?
These are only from this thread. The guy is fantasizing about having a 13 inch Cock when he has 2 inches.
I give up! Keep on typing and posting this crap i will just quit reading it.

JESUS Ras!

Go outside and get some sun!
And if it isn't shining up there, go take some vitamin D pills.
We realize that you are the be all and end all of XS11 knowledge, but we also know when someone is exaggerating the numbers, and if we don't know, it won't make any difference to us.
You strike me as acting like a bear fresh out of the hibernation den.
And if you aren't going to read this thread anymore, you won't see this, and won't respond to it.
Hope things get better for you, spring is coming.
Have a happy, CZ

[natemoen]

jesus ras!

Go outside and get some sun!
And if it isn't shining up there, go take some vitamin d pills.
We realize that you are the be all and end all of xs11 knowledge, but we also know when someone is exaggerating the numbers, and if we don't know, it won't make any difference to us.
You strike me as acting like a bear fresh out of the hibernation den.
And if you aren't going to read this thread anymore, you won't see this, and won't respond to it.
hope things get better for you, spring is coming.:d
have a happy, cz

+1!!!!!!!!

[Cuda 69]

sounds like somebody missed there milk and cookie break.

[scalded dog]

I love my bike, and fatasizing about it is fine, wheather or not it gets into the 10s, don't matter, as long as I'm surprising, wingers, 6-speed 105 ci harleys, police harley set-ups, for less than $1000, I'm a happy camper...LOL. Later 'Dog

[onefour]

Yes credit is due where credit is due. If the numbers dont match with reality then we all have to give credit to anyone who claims a number...right. Try to spin your back wheel at 70 MPH with only a tad bit less HP than he claims. Won't do it will it?
Ever checked your clutch lock nut ands seen it be wrinklier? Ever been too cheap to make a 200 HP XS11 but not buy a new one if it needed it?
Ever thanked Geezer for a spoon feeding?
These are only from this thread. The guy is fantasizing about having a 13 inch Cock when he has 2 inches.
I give up! Keep on typing and posting this crap i will just quit reading it.

Turning it into a cock size argument? You're a classy dude. Lets see you pull your **** on the track right now and see how you do. Im not one for jacking numbers. You'll notice I never claimed a real number, just put out a number to get the clutch to hold. Thanks for the help btw.
I would be thankful if you stopped reading it.
Track times will come in the summer when the tracks open. Until then, I wont be coming to this site because of your attitude. I also wont be sharing any info unless the general public here wants it. Good day.

[natemoen]

Turning it into a cock size argument? You're a classy dude. Lets see you pull your **** on the track right now and see how you do. Im not one for jacking numbers. You'll notice I never claimed a real number, just put out a number to get the clutch to hold. Thanks for the help btw.
I would be thankful if you stopped reading it.
Track times will come in the summer when the tracks open. Until then, I wont be coming to this site because of your attitude. I also wont be sharing any info unless the general public here wants it. Good day.

Ignore him, some of us actually want to see what it can do.

[trbig]

Some funny stuff here. The "Claimed" 100hp from our bikes, and Ras doesn't get a bit upset by that, but does at this guy? I remember when Cody (Maximan) spent probably @ $12,000 with a professional who specializes in these motors after boring to the 1196 Wiseco kit and having major porting on a flow bench, jetting, aftermarket cams, several different exhaust options, etc... and I don't think he ever did quite make it to 100hp to the rear wheel.. like 98hp I think after dozens and dozens of dyno runs trying to hit that 100 through normal aspiration. At stock, these bikes, in great running condition are in the 70's HP range through the shaft drive to the rear wheel. Running a bit rough or not tuned quite right? Even less.

So... at 120hp to the rear tire, you are nearly doubling the stock HP of these bikes. On wet pavement, I've broken traction doing probably at least 50. And like he said... TORQUE is the key, not HP, so why does this all seem so far fetched to do at 70? If simply reading someone's thread TORQUES you off so bad that you feel the need to continually call them a liar, I suggest you don't read this thread? Simple, right? It would seem so anyway.