voltage regulator

[jayel]

does the XS11 use a regulated ground to control the output voltage?

[Petersg_99]

I'm not sure, but why do you ask?

[jayel]

was reading the regulator threads and as the 11 doesn't output all that well at lower rpms and I run the 850 FD, I was thinking of building a modded setup like the XS650 guys use (Chrysler reg. RadioShack diodes) that works ready well, yes I know about the Oregon regulators but it's fun to build your own + member in good standing in the CBC (Cheap Ba**ards Club)

[crazy steve]

does the XS11 use a regulated ground to control the output voltage?

Yes. The green wire coming from the 'field' coil is the regulated ground.

[jayel]

Thanks Steve I'll document this when I do it and post it up this spring

[motoman]

was reading the regulator threads and as the 11 doesn't output all that well at lower rpms and I run the 850 FD, I was thinking of building a modded setup like the XS650 guys use (Chrysler reg. RadioShack diodes) that works ready well, yes I know about the Oregon regulators but it's fun to build your own + member in good standing in the CBC (Cheap Ba**ards Club)

I know of a couple here that use the Chry. reg. also..........just not limited to the twin XS crowd.......

[jayel]

I know of a couple here that use the Chry. reg. also..........just not limited to the twin XS crowd.......

Great did one on my 650 and it was a definite improvement, started charging sooner at lower rpm range and stabler voltage control

[country guy]

hi sorry to jump in im having a horrible time chasing down my no charge problem 79xs1100 new stator, battery, regulator, cleaned connectors and still not taking a charge alternator is working neutral light and headlight gets stronger with increase in rpm's any suggestions or another thread i should look at? thanks

[bikerphil]

If the headlight gets brighter with engine revving it's got to be charging somewhat. What is the voltage at the battery when rev to 4K rpm? These bikes actually discharge slightly at idle, not like a car alternator with 13.8V at idle.

[Schming]

hi sorry to jump in im having a horrible time chasing down my no charge problem 79xs1100 new stator, battery, regulator, cleaned connectors and still not taking a charge alternator is working neutral light and headlight gets stronger with increase in rpm's any suggestions or another thread i should look at? thanks

Have you checked to see if your bike has all the grounds and that they are clean shiny metal with a slathering of dielectric grease and tight ?

The stock wiring lacks sufficient grounds but it will work if everthing is spic & span.

I'm putting my '80G together as we speak and I've added four additional grounds and I still see a few more being necessary.

[country guy]

ill check it as soon as i get home i guess i couldve got a bad battery. already got tank and seat off ill go through all the connectors just to make sure and double check and clean up the grounds if necessary didnt check them last time around

[pete_s]

Get a AGM battery, I think they are @ Walmart now, don't bother with a regular battery.

They tolerate being discharged lower, and sulfating is not a problem that discharges regular lead cells.

Well worth the $10 to $30 extra for a premium battery.

[TopCatGr58]

Look what I found!

After reading this thread, I did a quick search to refresh my failing memory about what an AGM battery was, etc., and found this site offering AGM batteries, and they provide FREE SHIPPING for motorcycle batteries....check out this product for the XS1100 series replacing the Y50-N18 Walmart style!
Check out the PRICE!!

http://www.batterystuff.com/powerspo...TX24HL-BS.html



I looked on Walmart.com, only found 1 reference for "non-spillable" lead acid battery which is one of the many terms used for AGM type batteries, but they only said "found in store", and was an AUTO sized battery....called their Everstart "PLUS" series?

HTH?
T.C.

PS, here's their INFO about types of batteries for your review:

Wet Cell (flooded), Gel Cell, and Absorbed Glass Mat (AGM) are various versions of the lead acid battery. The Wet cell comes in two styles; Serviceable and Maintenance free. Both are filled with electrolyte and are basicly the same. I prefer one that I can add water to and check the specific gravity of the electrolyte with a hydrometer. The Gel Cell and the AGM batteries are specialty batteries that typically cost twice as much as a premium wet cell. However they store very well and do not tend to sulfate or degrade as easily as wet cell. There is little chance of a hydrogen gas explosion or corrosion when using these batteries; these are the safest lead acid batteries you can use. Gel Cell and some AGM batteries may require a special charging rate. If you want the best,most versatile type, consideration should be given to the AGM battery for applications such as Marine, RV, Solar, Audio, Power Sports and Stand-By Power just to name a few. If you don't use or operate your equipment daily, AGM batteries will hold their charge better that other types. If you must depend on top-notch battery performance, spend the extra money. Gel Cell batteries still are being sold but AGM batteries are replacing them in most applications. There is a some common confusion regarding AGM batteries because different manufactures call them by different names; some of the more common names are "sealed regulated valve", "dry cell", "non spillable", and "Valve Regulated Lead Acid" batteries. In most cases AGM batteries will give greater life span and greater cycle life than a wet cell battery.

AGM: The Absorbed Glass Matt construction allows the electrolyte to be suspended in close proximity with the plates active material. In theory, this enhances both the discharge and recharge efficiency. Common manufacturer applications include high performance engine starting, power sports, deep cycle, solar and storage battery. The larger AGM batteries we sell are typically good deep cycle batteries and they deliver their best life performance if recharged before allowed to drop below the 50% discharge rate. The Scorpion motorcycle batteries we carry are a nice upgrade from your stock flooded battery, and the Odyssey branded batteries are fantastic for holding their static charge over long periods of non use. When Deep Cycle AGM batteries are discharged to a rate of no less than 60% the cycle life will be 300 plus cycles.

[natemoen]

I bought a AGM type battery off ebay for something like 45 buck shipped a bit over a year ago and it worked GREAT all last season, and I expect it to work great again this coming season.

And it is currently tied into my pickup to keep it going all winter. I have done this for years with batteries and it works great.

[country guy]

thaks for all of the helpful info cleaned all connectors like new including grounds. tested battery said it had a bad cell and was no good i ordered the one above hopefully that puts an end to my problems