Oil Filter Differences

[jetmechmarty]

autozone SP2

Napa 4933

STP: SMO-2

Wix 24933

Fram CH6002

[MaximPhil]

I have a Fram that isn't that old. I'm not at home, but I could swear it has more pleats than the one in the photo and is made in China. I'm beginning to believe there are only one or two manufacturers of this filter.

I used FRAM for a long time. They used to be made in Canada then I noticed Korea and the last one was Poland. Canadian Tire no oonger carries the filter so I switched to WIX . I too belive there may well only be one place making this filter. I was told at the NAPA store that WIX makes the NAPA brand.
He then sold me the WIX as the NApa was $1 more
Phil

[trdriver71]

I used FRAM for a long time. They used to be made in Canada then I noticed Korea and the last one was Poland. Canadian Tire no oonger carries the filter so I switched to WIX . I too belive there may well only be one place making this filter. I was told at the NAPA store that WIX makes the NAPA brand.
He then sold me the WIX as the NApa was $1 more
Phil

you can still get the fram filter from canadian tire they just don't list it for the xs any more but if you ask for the venture filter they will get one for you.

[TopCatGr58]

Update on AUTO style Fram Filter.

Hey Nate,

Since I was out in the garage and had a used AUTO Fram filter, I thought I'd cut off the end and take a look see. The end cap is some fibrous material, not just flimsy cardboard, well glued/secured to the pleats, there were about 40 pleats, but this was a smaller filter for a 2.7 L V-6, they were 1/2" deep, and the relief valve was a coiled spring/plastic cap combo, not just a thin sheet of metal. And the inner core was metal as can be seen. See photos below.

T.C.

[Rasputin]

Just because Enquiring minds want to know. I have several Fram filters here so I took one apart to see what it was made like. First thing is this was made in Korea even though some are supposedly built in Canada, funny being as I am in Canada.
I counted 61 pleats although my counting skills are questionable. The inside retaining screen (for lack of knowing the right wording) was solidly set in the glue type mix that covers the entire top and bottom portions except where it rolls inward to the rubber type seals.
I the took a wood chisel and I have and scraped the glue off with the filter medium. There is no where that the glue is less than 1/16th inch thick and in places it is about 1/8th inch thick. Anything short of a sharp chisel will not budge this glue either.







If you have any further questions about this Fram filter I will be happy to look and see what I can find.

On a further note I will say that all the pleats were not evenly spaced with the widest gap being 180 degrees from the metal edge that starts and ends the filter medium.

[natemoen]

RAR, How deep are the pleets?

[Rasputin]

Pleats measure to be 3/4 inch deep if I am correctly understanding which depth you mean.

[natemoen]

Pleats measure to be 3/4 inch deep if I am correctly understanding which depth you mean.

From the outer diameter of the filter to the inner crease of the fiter media.

[Rasputin]

From the outer diameter of the filter to the inner crease of the fiter media.

Yup that is what I measured. I was also able to pull the glue off and unravel the pleats. There is 84 1/2 inches, so just over 7 feet of filter media folded into pleats and fit in the filter.

[mikubuilder]

you guys have way too much time....LMAO

go out and ride....

[natemoen]

you guys have way too much time....LMAO

go out and ride....

Well, riding causes oil degradation, which mean you have to change the oil, so that means we do ride!

[jetmechmarty]

I have an unused Fram and an unused Carquest 89933. I counted the pleats. Fram -68 Carquest -74. The pleats in the Fram filter are approximately 15 mm deep. In the Carquest filter they are almost 30 mm deep. The Carquest filter appears to have about twice as much media as the Fram. The Fram is made in India, the Carquest filter in Poland.

I have always assumed all Carquest filters are Wix, but this one isn't marked as such on the box, and I found no mention of Gastonia, NC where the Wix plant is. I'll save the Fram for an emergency, but I will continue to purchase something that I consider better for my bike, like Carquest.

[Rasputin]

Everyone will use either the filter of choice or the one that is available for the least cost. The point is, if given the choice, money aside which would provide the best filtration. I will admit that the Fram's I have may not be the better filter, but as I have another half dozen to go thru I will use them. If a better filter emerges due to this thread then I will endeavour to get those.
I find that while I am getting a bike to it's best running condition I have to change oil more often than what I would like. Maybe I did not adjust my floats or the petcock was leaking, or once it was on the road I found a second gear skip. Either way I do it the most economical way I can until I trust what I have built.
Thing is that people who care are trying to give info to the rest who want to know. Jetmechmarty, as you have gone to the point of counting and measuring pleats you qualify as one of those who aim to do better for the fellowship. Thank you for that.

[MPittma100]

Oil Filters

Most of the automotive (other than M/C) Carquest filters are made by Wix. Carquest, like most others, does carry a good and a better filter line.

FYI, Summit Racing Equipment (McDonough, GA) carries the Wix 24933 filter for the XS1100s.

MP

[Elwood2]

Am I the only one using HiFlo brand oil filter? I bought it off ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hiflo-Oil-Fi...627330&vxp=mtr