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  • Stock ignition and plug gap question

    I used the search function and didn't come across the answer I was looking for. Will the stock ignition handle a .035 plug gap? Or should I stay in the recommended .028-.032 range?
    Richard
    '79 XS1100SF "Phantom Stranger" full fairing w/radio and cd player, H-D Roadking trunk, everything else stock
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  • #2
    Maybe....

    Voltage is needed to overcome the gap so a larger gap = more voltage needed.

    Are the 30+ year old components up to the task or will you misfire?

    When the gap goes up, spark duration decreases. (Higher voltage means less duration - its a fixed formula) The wider the gap means more likely there will be some flammable mixture near the wider area to be ignited - the longer duration of a smaller gap the more chance to find some to ignite. A leaner mixture will have more areas with insufficient flammable mixture, resulting in a lean misfire with a wider gap.

    Forcing the coils to push higher voltages will necessarily cause secondary effects on insulation and the like - it all won't last as long. But in the interests of peak performance sometimes that is a sacrifice we make in longevity for the last ounce of horsepower.

    I am not saying .035 won't work I am sure it will run - just that the recommended spark gap is determined by a multitude of factors - I have a whole book on the design and tuning of competition engines that I bought back in Engineering School - it made my head hurt and I switched to Nursing instead Now I am lucky to remember lefty loosey righty tighty.

    Now that I have muddied the fountain with my two pennies, others who have gapped to .036 may chime in...


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    • #3
      That's not muddy....

      John's giving you the straight poop. Yes, a good-condition OEM ignition system will fire a larger gap, but you'll reduce the longevity of all the parts, if only slightly. 30-year-old bits, maybe more than slightly....
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      • #4
        There has been some discussion about side gapping plugs before... I havent read any if the technical info on it but it might be an alternative..?

        See here...

        http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...t=side+gapping
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        • #5
          Thank you, gentlemen. I know it requires more voltage, but didn't think of the "wear and tear" aspect. I have read up on the side gapping method and might try that in the future, but for now, I guess I will stick with .032 for a gap. I only have one spare OEM coil per side and don't want to have to place them in service because I burned up one that is in use.
          Richard
          '79 XS1100SF "Phantom Stranger" full fairing w/radio and cd player, H-D Roadking trunk, everything else stock
          '02 Honda VTX1800C

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