I would rather fix what I have but I was told that if my rings are messed up then the only option I have is a new motor or big bore kit. I want to do whatever to get this bike going. I looked at that motor frame on eBay but it seems like that motor is dead too. If I could get this bike to run for 1000 miles then die I would be so happy.
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Yes, they run sleeves but they're not replaceable (well, not easily). You bore the OEM cylinders out for the oversize pistons...Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two
'78E original owner - resto project
'78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
'82 XJ rebuild project
'80SG restified, red SOLD
'79F parts...
'81H more parts...
Other current bikes:
'93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
'86 XL883/1200 Chopper
'82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...
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Originally posted by DRedel View PostI would rather fix what I have but I was told that if my rings are messed up then the only option I have is a new motor or big bore kit. I want to do whatever to get this bike going. I looked at that motor frame on eBay but it seems like that motor is dead too. If I could get this bike to run for 1000 miles then die I would be so happy.
If you have compression, I think you are over reacting.Nathan
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1978 XS1100E
K&N Filter
#45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
OEM Exhaust
ATK Fork Brace
LED Dash lights
Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
Green Monster Coils
SS Brake Lines
Vision 550 Auto Tensioner
In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.
Theodore Roosevelt
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Here's one $150 in Rochester NY... not too far..
Air cooled engines do not rot from the inside when the sit arround for years like water cooled does.
http://rochester.craigslist.org/mcy/3049834989.html
4 or 5 hour drive not bad... In Texas we call that a commute.When the horse is dead, dismount.
Bagapotomus - '80G Attempted Rescue, '78 Engine, Vetter Bags and Trunk.
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Originally posted by Nick7777 View Posti have seen a few on ebay that supposedly run, think they are around 250 or so. shipping might be around that as wellCy
1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
Vetter Windjammer IV
Vetter hard bags & Trunk
OEM Luggage Rack
Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
Spade Fuse Box
Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
750 FD Mod
TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
XJ1100 Front Footpegs
XJ1100 Shocks
I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.
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Originally posted by DRedel View PostI would rather fix what I have but I was told that if my rings are messed up then the only option I have is a new motor or big bore kit. I want to do whatever to get this bike going. I looked at that motor frame on eBay but it seems like that motor is dead too. If I could get this bike to run for 1000 miles then die I would be so happy.Cy
1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
Vetter Windjammer IV
Vetter hard bags & Trunk
OEM Luggage Rack
Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
Spade Fuse Box
Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
750 FD Mod
TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
XJ1100 Front Footpegs
XJ1100 Shocks
I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.
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You won't know until you pull it apart and look.
If it's just a piston and rings, you can easily do that yourself. (easier with 2 people)
I did! Heck I've got 3 used pistons ready to ship your way if need be.
Original bore sized ring sets show up on ebay quite frequently.
Get a honing stone and clean out that cylinder and go for it.
Any used engine you get is a gamble. You're gonna have to go thru it and make sure everything else works too.Hi, my name is George & I'm a twisty addict!
80G (Green paint(PO idea))
The Green Monster
K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, '81 oil cooler, TC's homemade 4-2 w/Mac Mufflers, Raptor 660 ACCT
Got him in '04.
bald tire & borrowing parts
80SG (Black w/red emblems & calipers)
Scarlet
K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, WJ5, Shoei bags, Raptor 660 ACCT.
Got her in '11
Ready for the twisties!
81H (previously CPMaynard's)
Hugo
Full Venturer, Indigo Blue with B/W painted tank.
Cold weather ride
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Its not really the prefeered method but say for instance you have the original standard piston and the cylinder is worn or slightly damaged. You can get the next size larger rings and hone the cylinder to fit that ring and use the original piston. They make 3 standard overbore ringsets for the 1100 This is somewhat a shade tree approach but I have seen it work well on bikes that as far as I know are still running.
It depends on what you want to spend a set of rings for a piston and a head gasket might be found cheaper on ebay than taking the chance on an engine you buy.To fix the problem one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed.
Rodan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khm6...liHntN91DHjHiS
1980 G Silverbird
Original Yamaha Fairfing and Bags
1198 Overbore kit
Grizzly 660 ACCT
Barnett Clutch Springs
R1 Clutch Fiber Plates
122.5 Main Jets
ACCT Mod
Mac 4-2 Flare Tips
Antivibe Bar ends
Rear trunk add-on
http://s1184.photobucket.com/albums/z329/viperron1/
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Have the valve clearances been checked? And adjusted if needed? If the answer is no, do that before changing motors. I've personally seen compression numbers come up by 100 to 200% with just that...
If your rings were truely that bad, you'd have a oil-burner. If you're seeing large amounts of blue smoke out the exhaust, then you may need a rebuild or new motor. If not, it's the valves and try an adjust before doing anything else.Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two
'78E original owner - resto project
'78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
'82 XJ rebuild project
'80SG restified, red SOLD
'79F parts...
'81H more parts...
Other current bikes:
'93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
'86 XL883/1200 Chopper
'82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...
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Heck, if his compression number(s) are low, he could have a bent valve(s).
On my SG #3 exhaust was bent and the compression was about nil.
When I took the head off, you could see light thru the exhuast port.
I just got done putting in a new valve ($28) and viola! good to go.
I guess he won't know how bad it is until he pulls it apart to see.Hi, my name is George & I'm a twisty addict!
80G (Green paint(PO idea))
The Green Monster
K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, '81 oil cooler, TC's homemade 4-2 w/Mac Mufflers, Raptor 660 ACCT
Got him in '04.
bald tire & borrowing parts
80SG (Black w/red emblems & calipers)
Scarlet
K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, WJ5, Shoei bags, Raptor 660 ACCT.
Got her in '11
Ready for the twisties!
81H (previously CPMaynard's)
Hugo
Full Venturer, Indigo Blue with B/W painted tank.
Cold weather ride
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Originally posted by DRedel View PostI talked with andres and I guess I'm going to try and Tare my motor down I have no idea what I'm doing so please everyone give me help and replace the jugs and pistons. Everyone brace yourselves for dumb questions. ThanksNathan
KD9ARL
μολὼν λαβέ
1978 XS1100E
K&N Filter
#45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
OEM Exhaust
ATK Fork Brace
LED Dash lights
Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
Green Monster Coils
SS Brake Lines
Vision 550 Auto Tensioner
In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.
Theodore Roosevelt
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You may not have to replace all of them, just the ones that need it.
Get a manual, it has the specs in it for clearances and such.
I've got 3 used pistons I'd be willing to donate to you.
I've also got my old piston rings too, but I'm not sure if you can/should use them.
I'll keep tabs on your rebuild thread and offer up any advice I can.
Last summer I replaced my #3 piston in my G by myself in one weekend.
You may take longer, but don't give up.Hi, my name is George & I'm a twisty addict!
80G (Green paint(PO idea))
The Green Monster
K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, '81 oil cooler, TC's homemade 4-2 w/Mac Mufflers, Raptor 660 ACCT
Got him in '04.
bald tire & borrowing parts
80SG (Black w/red emblems & calipers)
Scarlet
K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, WJ5, Shoei bags, Raptor 660 ACCT.
Got her in '11
Ready for the twisties!
81H (previously CPMaynard's)
Hugo
Full Venturer, Indigo Blue with B/W painted tank.
Cold weather ride
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