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  • Windjammer Repair aka welding ABS

    Last year I made an HD fairing fit my Honda. I was intrigued by plastic welding and have been dabbling with it since. I have years of metal welding experience which basically is worth next to nothing for welding plastic.

    Fast forward to March of this year I buy my XJ with a WJ5 on it. Its so noisy that I started pulling parts trying to eliminate noises coming from the fairing. I finally drop the Cycle sound which was falling apart and find a crack in the top of the dash over the headlight adjusting bolt. Also there is a .75 hole where the PO ran the wires for the cycle sound. There are cracks running parallel to the windshield. I cut a plug and welded it all up. I also find a couple cracks near the frame mounts and welded them up. I also drilled a set of mounting hole between the existing so that I have 6 bolts in the fairing instead of 4. Finally the fairing is quiet.

    A month ago noticed the fairiing squeaking etc again. After inspection I find the old crack is back. I pulled the fairing and welded the crack again and this time ran a little extra filler rod and beefed up the area.

    The other day on the bike again and noticed its getting loud again and sure enough the crack is back. Knowing that I've welded it 2x and its cracked again welding it a third time won't fix it. Time to do something different. When I bought my welding "kit" from Harbor Feight it included some stainless steel screen-wire. Decided to embed this and try vs getting ugly and riveting something over the area. FWIW the iron in the HF welding kit is junk.

    In this picture the crack has been vee'd out with the iron in preparation for welding. You can tell from the texture I've worked here before




    Here I've welded a couple places jumping around. There is a fine line between hot enough to weld and dimensionally unstable.




    Weld complete with minimal extra filler




    SS screenwire tacked in place




    Here the screen wire is embedded although a little shallow. The material is not that thick to begin with and the heat on the screen transfers out making larger areas unstable. You have to keep moving.




    Finished weld. I ran a piece of filler rod over this area to again beef it up a little. Have to keep moving as once the area is too hot its quite unstable.




    The view from a little further back. Still doesn't look too bad. Time will tell.

    1970? Honda Z50... gone
    1974? Yamaha 100 Enduro... gone
    1974 Honda CB200... gone
    1981 Yamaha Virago 750... gone
    1993 Honda Shadow 1100... gone
    2008 Honda VTX 1800F
    1982 Yamaha XJ1100J w/850 final, Raptor ACCT
    1979 Yamaha XS1100SF "Chewey" Raptor ACCT

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  • #2
    I guess my question would be...HOW did you weld it? Did you use heat? Maybe a filler rod with plastic fill and some wierd kind of flux. Maybe you used glue and tapeworms. Enquiring minds want to know!
    2-79 XS1100 SF
    2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
    80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
    Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!

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    • #3
      Yeah, lt looks pretty good. After you are sure it is done, you could spray on some semigloss black on the black parts and it will just blend in. I had a fractured right side near the mounting hole and a good chunk of the faring (black part) had separated. I used layers of fiberglass matt and epoxy to glue it back together from the inside. It is apparently strong enough. I would have just started over with a different faring, but I had spent a lot of time painting it. It has held for a year and a half and a structural repair.
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      Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Rasputin View Post
        I guess my question would be...HOW did you weld it? Did you use heat? Maybe a filler rod with plastic fill and some wierd kind of flux. Maybe you used glue and tapeworms. Enquiring minds want to know!
        75 watt soldering iron and ABS welding rod. Lots of stuff out there on you tube about welding plastic. I have a section on my web site too showing the various tools and supplies. Welding ABS is something like a cross between soldering and wood burning crafts. With ARC welding there is a mixing of base and fill material by way of mechanical effect from the arc, with plastic that does not happen and the material is much less fluid so the mixing of base and fill materials is done with the iron.
        1970? Honda Z50... gone
        1974? Yamaha 100 Enduro... gone
        1974 Honda CB200... gone
        1981 Yamaha Virago 750... gone
        1993 Honda Shadow 1100... gone
        2008 Honda VTX 1800F
        1982 Yamaha XJ1100J w/850 final, Raptor ACCT
        1979 Yamaha XS1100SF "Chewey" Raptor ACCT

        http://www.johnsoldiron.com

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