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Long story short, I'm doing my valves and went to the dealer to see if they had shims to swap and all they had was in increments of 0.05 mm. Are there shims available in increments of 0.01? I'm looking to swap 5 shims if anyone has stock in them. I will post sizes later. Thanks!
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'79 XS11 F
Stock except K&N
'79 XS11 SF
Stock, no title.
'84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws
"What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~ -
Nope, the .05mm size jump is what's out there. A few oddball shims have been reported on ('mid' sizes like a 280.5) but nobody has found a source...Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two
'78E original owner - resto project
'78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
'82 XJ rebuild project
'80SG restified, red SOLD
'79F parts...
'81H more parts...
Other current bikes:
'93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
'86 XL883/1200 Chopper
'82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
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The Ford 29mm shims use a 4 digit numbering system that is pretty much the same as ours (just one more decimal place) and there are more in between sizes for those shims. Harder to find and more expensive though too.Originally posted by crazy steve View PostNathan
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1978 XS1100E
K&N Filter
#45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
OEM Exhaust
ATK Fork Brace
LED Dash lights
Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
Green Monster Coils
SS Brake Lines
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Ford has discontinued those... the SHO guys are now getting their shims the same places we are..Originally posted by natemoen View Post
They weren't cheap when they were available either...Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two
'78E original owner - resto project
'78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
'82 XJ rebuild project
'80SG restified, red SOLD
'79F parts...
'81H more parts...
Other current bikes:
'93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
'86 XL883/1200 Chopper
'82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...Comment
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Yes, that is true but they are still out there!Originally posted by crazy steve View PostFord has discontinued those... the SHO guys are now getting their shims the same places we are..
They weren't cheap when they were available either...Nathan
KD9ARL
μολὼν λαβέ
1978 XS1100E
K&N Filter
#45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
OEM Exhaust
ATK Fork Brace
LED Dash lights
Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
Green Monster Coils
SS Brake Lines
Vision 550 Auto Tensioner
In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.
Theodore RooseveltComment
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That sucks... you can never really set the same clearance on every valve then...'79 XS11 F
Stock except K&N
'79 XS11 SF
Stock, no title.
'84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws
"What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~Comment
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So heres what Im dealing with... the following is all in metric.
Valve#
Current shim
Actual Clearance
New Shim
Final Clearance
I1, I2, I3, I4
2.65, 2.70, 2.65, 2.70
0.1, 0.12, 0.12, 0.10
2.60, 2.65, 2.60, 2.65
0.15, 0.17, 0.17, 0.15
I pretty much have my mind made up about these clearances, its the exhaust clearances Im not so sure about... should I run them on the low side or go big..? How much of a difference would does it make in power / torque..? Or, is it more about time between next adjustment?
E1, E2, E3, E4
2.85, 2.85, 2.85, 2.90
0.16, 0.16, 0.19, 0.16
2.80, 2.80, 2.80, 2.85
0.21, 0.21, 0.24, 0.21
Or run them with one size smaller shim and get...
0.26, 0.26, 0.24, 0.26
Thoughts and reasoning for choice?'79 XS11 F
Stock except K&N
'79 XS11 SF
Stock, no title.
'84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws
"What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~Comment
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I try to miss on the loose side, might be a tad noisier but no worries for a while. I doubt you could tell any difference in power if set tighter, IDK.2H7 (79) owned since '89
3H3 owned since '06
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Thanks Phil, Im looking for someone who wants to swap shims... Im looking for 2- 2.60, 2- 2.75, and 1- 2.80. Im going to revisit the dealer this morning and see if they have what I need. I may just end up buying new ones so I can get on with the adjustment.
BTW, the manual says to toss the used shims.
'79 XS11 F
Stock except K&N
'79 XS11 SF
Stock, no title.
'84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws
"What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~Comment
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Try a Kawasaki repair shop.Skids (Sid Hansen)
Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.Comment
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Check your PMs on the other channel Wade.Greg
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