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    well i have been trying to get this thing going. i got the carbs and made one good are box out of two, got everything on and now i have no spark. i did do a search someone said go to tech tips on main page but i didnt see it could one of you give me the link. so i can hunt this down please. it turns over and she sounds like she wants to run. i am going to charge the bat meanwhile
    78 E

  • #2
    Originally posted by MR.D View Post
    ...it turns over and she sounds like she wants to run...
    If it's trying to start, you've got spark; are you sure it's got fuel? Petcocks turned to 'prime'?....
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    • #3
      Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
      If it's trying to start, you've got spark; are you sure it's got fuel? Petcocks turned to 'prime'?....
      if it was turning over i got spark? yeah i saw the gas in the lines it even over flowed into the air box. fitting all them fuel lines was a pita! to dark outside to keep working i will get back to it first thing in the morning. thank you so much for your help
      78 E

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      • #4
        I believe Steve meant, if you cna hear it combust every now and then "trying to start" then you have spark in at leat two cylinders. Electricaly the bike is paired up 1-4 cylinders and 2-3. Fuel wise it is paired 1-2 and 3-4.

        If gas is flooding out your air box, that could well be why it is not starting, flooding out the cylinder(s). To much gas is a bad thing, to much in your engine cylinders and no happiness.
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        • #5
          Yeah, the starter turning the engine has a monotonously smooth sound; sparks make it skip ahead and sputter, a sound I long for...
          "Time is the greatest teacher; unfortunately, it kills all of its students."

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          • #6
            Check your oil! If gas was filling the cylinders you may have gas in the oil and that destroys bearings.
            Nathan
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            • #7
              Originally posted by natemoen View Post
              Check your oil! If gas was filling the cylinders you may have gas in the oil and that destroys bearings.
              now im lost. maybe its just the starter working. where do i start take off the carbs and clean them, take off both petcocks and clean them, get rid of the octup?
              78 E

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              • #8
                If you had gas coming out of your airbox that at least means that your float needles failed to do their job. I don't remember what model bike you have but if you have later model carbs then you should make sure to replace the o ring around the seats when you pull the carbs out to check all the rest.

                Again I say, check your oil!
                Nathan
                KD9ARL

                μολὼν λαβέ

                1978 XS1100E
                K&N Filter
                #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                OEM Exhaust
                ATK Fork Brace
                LED Dash lights
                Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                Green Monster Coils
                SS Brake Lines
                Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                Theodore Roosevelt

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by natemoen View Post
                  If you had gas coming out of your airbox that at least means that your float needles failed to do their job. I don't remember what model bike you have but if you have later model carbs then you should make sure to replace the o ring around the seats when you pull the carbs out to check all the rest.

                  Again I say, check your oil!
                  ok clean the carbs now im not leaking but still no spark
                  78 E

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                  • #10
                    is anyone in Georgia? or would anyone like to help me over the phone?
                    78 E

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                    • #11
                      Hey there Mr. D.,

                      There are several members in GA, but not sure how close they are to you!?

                      Here's the link to the Repairs, Electrical tech tips forum section, it's not from the MAIN HOME PAGE, but on the Main Forums page, scrolling down the page you'll find the tech tips!

                      http://www.xs11.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=35

                      You say you're charging the battery, but you haven't said how OLD it is? If it came with the bike and is more than 3 years old, then it may be toast, and that could be part of the problem. See Keithh's, recent thread about electrical problems, he's had an intermittent starting problem.

                      I don't recall the history of the bike, but if it's sat for any time, then corrosion of the electrical connectors is a common source for gremlins, and pulling apart ALL of the connectors, cleaning and such will go a long ways towards eliminating those gremlins.

                      I have just sold the last 2 fuseblocks in the recent batch I have, but will be ordering more, and if has the OEM glass fuses/holder, that's another source for gremlins, and replacing it will be another problem solved!!

                      T.C.
                      T. C. Gresham
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TopCatGr58 View Post
                        Hey there Mr. D.,

                        There are several members in GA, but not sure how close they are to you!?

                        Here's the link to the Repairs, Electrical tech tips forum section, it's not from the MAIN HOME PAGE, but on the Main Forums page, scrolling down the page you'll find the tech tips!

                        http://www.xs11.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=35

                        You say you're charging the battery, but you haven't said how OLD it is? If it came with the bike and is more than 3 years old, then it may be toast, and that could be part of the problem. See Keithh's, recent thread about electrical problems, he's had an intermittent starting problem.

                        I don't recall the history of the bike, but if it's sat for any time, then corrosion of the electrical connectors is a common source for gremlins, and pulling apart ALL of the connectors, cleaning and such will go a long ways towards eliminating those gremlins.

                        I have just sold the last 2 fuseblocks in the recent batch I have, but will be ordering more, and if has the OEM glass fuses/holder, that's another source for gremlins, and replacing it will be another problem solved!!

                        T.C.
                        thanks tc this was a barn find i got last summer. i had a guy work on it he had it running but one of the carbs float post was broken he said he was going to fix it and lost them. i recently got a set of 80's carbs that was leaking clean them up and tested with a bottle and no longer leaking. got it all on the bike and nada. the battery i am using i got last summer new for my cb900f my quick charger test for load so i think its good, it did take 16 hr to charge since i had not used it since then. today i cleaned every connector but the ones in the headlight and used dialectical grease. i took the plugs out and put near ground and no spark. i did check to make sure i was getting power to the coils and the old fuse block......this is where i am. i just started working on bikes last year KZs so still learning the way of these old bikes.
                        78 E

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                        • #13
                          could someone help walk me threw some of this electrical?

                          hey guys i am a lil stressed out with my bike. could some help walk me threw some of the electrical i am not getting spark. I am off today and would like to hear her run i know im not far been working on it for over a week. contact me and i will give you my number. thanks!
                          Last edited by MR.D; 06-09-2012, 09:05 AM.
                          78 E

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MR.D View Post
                            hey guys i am a lil stressed out with my bike. could some help walk me threw some of the electrical i am not getting spark. I am off today and would like to hear her run i know im not far been working on it for over a week. contact me and i will give you my number. thanks!
                            Mr. D,

                            You live very close to me. I would love to come and give you a hand. Unfortunately, I am working down at the ATL and can not get away. We need to get that thing fixed, so you can come to the fall rally.
                            Marty (in Mississippi)
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                            • #15
                              Have you checked your resistance on your pulsar coils? The wires have a tendency to wear out from all the movement.

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