Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Stripped oil filter bolt

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Stripped oil filter bolt

    Just picked up a 78 XS 1100 and found that the oil filter bolt wasn't in great shape when I tried to get it off. I ended up stripping it round and gouged it pretty good with some vice grips. It wouldn't budge! Harbor Freight has a 9 piece metric bolt extractor set on sale right now for $19.99. I picked one up and the 12mm socket took it right off with no problem. I put the head on a grinder and put some flat spots back on it and put it back in the bike with a 12mm 12 point socket. It tightened right up. When I take it out the next time I will just use the bolt extractor socket. I'll eventually end up replacing it but it won't stop me from riding this holiday weekend!
    My 1978 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/mstic2000/xs.jpg

  • #2
    Originally posted by mstic2000 View Post
    I put the head on a grinder and put some flat spots back on it and put it back in the bike with a 12mm 12 point socket.
    I hope you can get it off next time! These things are frequently overtightened.
    Skids (Sid Hansen)

    Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

    Comment


    • #3
      Originally posted by skids View Post
      I hope you can get it off next time! These things are frequently overtightened.
      Which is a shame, since the torque applied has NO effect on the ability to seal. In fact, I would bet that with the proper o-rings installed, it could be installed finger tight, and not leak, and not back out. CZ

      Comment


      • #4
        Originally posted by CaptonZap View Post
        Which is a shame, since the torque applied has NO effect on the ability to seal. In fact, I would bet that with the proper o-rings installed, it could be installed finger tight, and not leak, and not back out. CZ
        Well, it might be challenging to get a new big oring to seal at the cup contact using your fingers. However, you get the thing too tight with all of the components having oil or grease (I get the big one to stay in place this way) on them will definately cause the oil to migrate away with time and pressure! Torque on does not equat torque off...
        Skids (Sid Hansen)

        Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

        Comment


        • #5
          It came back off with the bolt extractor socket. I didn't fill it with oil last night and decided to check some boxes full of spare parts today before I did put the oil back in. Lo and behold I had a spare oil filter bypass bolt and the head is in great shape.
          My 1978 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/mstic2000/xs.jpg

          Comment


          • #6
            Some filters come with a thinner O-ring and then I tighten the crap out of the bolt. Of course I use the correct/good quality tools and have never had a problem <knock> stripping the bolt head in 20 yrs, YMMV.
            2H7 (79) owned since '89
            3H3 owned since '06

            "If it ain't broke, modify it"

            ☮

            Comment


            • #7
              Harbor Freight has torque wrenches on sale.

              http://www.harborfreight.com/catalog...=torque+wrench

              I went the other day and bought a 1/4 drive for $9.99 and a 3/8 drive for $13.49. Using a tq wrench can save a lot of grief later on. This is especially true for the untrained and/or inexperienced home mechanic. Here's an inexpensive solution!




              Marty (in Mississippi)
              XS1100SG
              XS650SK
              XS650SH
              XS650G
              XS6502F
              XS650E

              Comment


              • #8
                I can still get the original yamaha oil filters hear at the parts dealer where I am at for about $10. I tighten the oil filter bolt snug and check it after a few days and never had a problem with leaking. I picked up a 12 point metric socket set at Harbor Freight when I got the bolt extractor set. Much more better on these old bikes. I might be making a trip back there for a torque wrench.

                My 1978 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/mstic2000/xs.jpg

                Comment


                • #9
                  Return those 12 point sockets and get 6 point. 12 point Is just asking to round off a bolt.
                  Nathan
                  KD9ARL

                  μολὼν λαβέ

                  1978 XS1100E
                  K&N Filter
                  #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                  OEM Exhaust
                  ATK Fork Brace
                  LED Dash lights
                  Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                  Green Monster Coils
                  SS Brake Lines
                  Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                  In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                  Theodore Roosevelt

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by natemoen View Post
                    Return those 12 point sockets and get 6 point. 12 point Is just asking to round off a bolt.
                    Ditto! And good quuality socket steel is better yet.
                    Skids (Sid Hansen)

                    Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      I have a set of craftsman 6 point sockets. In my years of wrenching experience 12 points grab where a 6 point can't. The bolt extractor set is a pretty handy item too.
                      My 1978 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/mstic2000/xs.jpg

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mstic2000 View Post
                        I have a set of craftsman 6 point sockets. In my years of wrenching experience 12 points grab where a 6 point can't. The bolt extractor set is a pretty handy item too.
                        I have had the opposite experience. It is usually the softer bolt head that rounds off the points when things go wrong. A six-point wrench involves more of the metal on the bolt head to prevent rounding. I think it is a matter of shearing resistance.
                        Skids (Sid Hansen)

                        Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mstic2000 View Post
                          I have a set of craftsman 6 point sockets. In my years of wrenching experience 12 points grab where a 6 point can't. The bolt extractor set is a pretty handy item too.
                          I find this true with flank drive sockets. Mine are Bonney brand. Snap-on makes them that way. Otherwise, I find six point the safer bet.
                          Marty (in Mississippi)
                          XS1100SG
                          XS650SK
                          XS650SH
                          XS650G
                          XS6502F
                          XS650E

                          Comment

                          Working...
                          X