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  • Stralya
    XSive Maximus
    • Apr 2006
    • 791
    • 'Blotto Grotto' Wodonga, Victoria, Australia.

    #1

    New coils.

    I've just bought these on eBay. Are my fears justified?



    Dan.
    Losing his spark.
    Automotive Imbecile.
    Proud owner of 'The Swiftcicle'. (Swifty for short)
    '78E Full Vetter Dresser.
    1196 Big Bore Kit.
  • natemoen
    Master of XSology
    • May 2010
    • 8640
    • Fargo

    #2
    Other than it only being a single coil, what are your concerns?
    Nathan
    KD9ARL

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    1978 XS1100E
    K&N Filter
    #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
    OEM Exhaust
    ATK Fork Brace
    LED Dash lights
    Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

    Green Monster Coils
    SS Brake Lines
    Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

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    • Stralya
      XSive Maximus
      • Apr 2006
      • 791
      • 'Blotto Grotto' Wodonga, Victoria, Australia.

      #3
      I've bought two of them. I was just a bit concerned about the price, they seem too cheap really and you only get what you pay for. I was really wondering if anyone else here has experience with these coils.
      Automotive Imbecile.
      Proud owner of 'The Swiftcicle'. (Swifty for short)
      '78E Full Vetter Dresser.
      1196 Big Bore Kit.

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      • natemoen
        Master of XSology
        • May 2010
        • 8640
        • Fargo

        #4
        Don't know, the seller doesn't really give any info about the specifics of the coils other than it is for a 12 volt system. None of the relevant resistance are given.
        Nathan
        KD9ARL

        μολὼν λαβέ

        1978 XS1100E
        K&N Filter
        #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
        OEM Exhaust
        ATK Fork Brace
        LED Dash lights
        Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

        Green Monster Coils
        SS Brake Lines
        Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

        In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

        Theodore Roosevelt

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        • TopCatGr58
          Administrator
          • Jul 2002
          • 12650
          • Portsmouth, Va.

          #5
          Hey Dan,

          Well, looking at the larger image, will see if this link will work?



          It looks very close to the OEM designed coils, and he specifically states it's for the 12 volt XS 11, but as Nate said, he doesn't tell you what the OHM's are, either 1.5 or 3.0...AND he also makes a mistake in describing it as for a CDI ignition system, which usually only use 0.7 ohms, whereas ours are TCI's, with the higher resistance levels!

          They do NOT look anything like the Black MikesXS HT coils that burned up after 10K miles! You might want to write to him and inquire about the resistance rating....so you'll know whether you'll need to bypass your ballast resistor....but you can also check the resistance/ohms yourself once you get them in hand!

          T.C.
          T. C. Gresham
          81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
          79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
          History shows again and again,
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          • Stralya
            XSive Maximus
            • Apr 2006
            • 791
            • 'Blotto Grotto' Wodonga, Victoria, Australia.

            #6
            Thanks chaps. I was dreading the 10k burn out I've read about MikesXS coils but these looked different. It's a bit of a 'pig in a bag' I know but they look right and that's what persuaded me. I'll check the resistance before I install them. I'll let you know how they go, they're coming from England so should be here in a week or so.
            Automotive Imbecile.
            Proud owner of 'The Swiftcicle'. (Swifty for short)
            '78E Full Vetter Dresser.
            1196 Big Bore Kit.

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            • Stralya
              XSive Maximus
              • Apr 2006
              • 791
              • 'Blotto Grotto' Wodonga, Victoria, Australia.

              #7
              OK, Primary = 3 ohms, should be 1.5 +/- 10% at 20 degrees C.


              Secondary = 17k ohms, should be 15k +/- 10% at 20 degrees c.


              How do you think I should proceed?
              Automotive Imbecile.
              Proud owner of 'The Swiftcicle'. (Swifty for short)
              '78E Full Vetter Dresser.
              1196 Big Bore Kit.

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              • DiverRay
                Moderator
                • Nov 2004
                • 7592
                • Star, IDAHO

                #8
                Bypass the ballast resistor and ride it! Should work well, as T.C. said the resistance is good for the 1980 and up, or early with the ballast resistor bypassed.
                I just plugged the red/white wires together, then wrapped them so they would not short(again!). I ran the green coils on my bike for quite a while with no problems once I made SURE the bypass would not short to a ground.
                Ray Matteis
                KE6NHG
                XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                • Stralya
                  XSive Maximus
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 791
                  • 'Blotto Grotto' Wodonga, Victoria, Australia.

                  #9
                  Thanks Ray. I've got a heap of stuff to do, I've got a full front and back master cylinder and caliper re build kit and 4 x carby kits from Georgefix and new s/s brake lines to put in. I can't find anyone in Sydney who will do a proper ultasonic carby clean though. I've googled my head off without any luck.
                  Automotive Imbecile.
                  Proud owner of 'The Swiftcicle'. (Swifty for short)
                  '78E Full Vetter Dresser.
                  1196 Big Bore Kit.

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                  • crazy steve
                    XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 7932
                    • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

                    #10
                    You might be concerned about longevity.

                    These are rather small-looking from the pic and resemble some 'mini-coils' that are available. These smaller coils have the same (or close) specs as 'normal' coils, but when used with an older ignition system that doesn't have 'dwell control' will burn up...
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                    • James England
                      XS-XJ Super Guru
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 3039
                      • North of England

                      #11
                      They do look small, from the pix. Did you ask the seller if they are suitable for your model of bike?
                      XS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.

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                      • Stralya
                        XSive Maximus
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 791
                        • 'Blotto Grotto' Wodonga, Victoria, Australia.

                        #12
                        They are exactly the same size as stock and they were advertised as XS1100.
                        Here's the actual ad once again.

                        Automotive Imbecile.
                        Proud owner of 'The Swiftcicle'. (Swifty for short)
                        '78E Full Vetter Dresser.
                        1196 Big Bore Kit.

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