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    How much fuel should flow from the petcock? What kind of stream should it have? I got rid of my octi and have been running on reserve because my "on" doesnt flow fuel. Should i run the prime side instead of reserve? Im not sure i am getting enough fuel flow.
    Jeff
    77 XS750 2D completely stock
    79 SF XS1100 "Picky" stock with harley mufflers

  • #2
    You need to remove and disassemble those petcocks if your getting no flow when in the on position. They are probably full of gunk.

    The petcocks are pretty simple and straight forward.

    You will have NO reserve if you run them in prime or reserve position. Not a good idea.
    Greg

    Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

    ― Albert Einstein

    80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by jjz28 View Post
      How much fuel should flow from the petcock? What kind of stream should it have? I got rid of my octi and have been running on reserve because my "on" doesnt flow fuel. Should i run the prime side instead of reserve? Im not sure i am getting enough fuel flow.
      Hi JJ,
      yeah, tear the taps down because something ain't right.
      BTW, you shoulda capped off the PRIME spigots when you ditched the octopus. To run on PRIME you will have to put a fuel hose back on the PRIME spigot and Tee it into the ON + RES fuel hose both sides.
      As has been posted, running off PRIME, same as running off RES, will run you completely out of fuel if you don't carefully watch for the red "low fuel" light to come on. If the bulb ain't blown.
      Fred Hill, S'toon
      XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
      "The Flying Pumpkin"

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      • #4
        jat,
        have u made sure ur running a full/ near full tank of fuel
        to check out the petcocks?
        pete


        new owner of
        08 gen2 hayabusa


        former owner
        1981 xs1100 RH (aus) (5N5)
        zrx carbs
        18mm float height
        145 main jets
        38 pilots
        slide needle shimmed .5mm washer
        fitted with v/stax and uni pod filters

        [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pA8dwxmAVA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/url]

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        • #5
          Thanks guys, i have tried with full tank of fuel, the thing is, I just dont know if i am getting enough fuel to feed the carbs good enough in the high rpms. I have been having a kinda low in stumble and then it rockets off and then a higher end stumble at wot when i get to the higher rpms (tach dont work but I know its not over redline). I am not synched though, just eyeball benchsynced. The thing is if im riding slow around town and then open it up in second or third it will seem to run out strong in the high rpms the first time but then it seems like I dont have enough gas to do it again, like maybe the fuel builds up running slow and fills the bowls and it will pull good and then after one good pull it misses at high rpms the next time. It runs good and isnt a very big stumble/miss at all and it isnt like i am getting no fuel like I forgot to turn on my petcocks, it not that bad at all just a little flutter up high. Maybe its cause I aint sycned.
          Jeff
          77 XS750 2D completely stock
          79 SF XS1100 "Picky" stock with harley mufflers

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          • #6
            are u running the stock main and pilot jets?
            also are u running the stock float setings,

            are both the petcocks flowing at the same rate
            or is there definately one flowing faster than the other,
            if u have the fuel lines 't'd together, then 1 petcock
            working correctly would feed enuff fuel for the carbs.
            pete


            new owner of
            08 gen2 hayabusa


            former owner
            1981 xs1100 RH (aus) (5N5)
            zrx carbs
            18mm float height
            145 main jets
            38 pilots
            slide needle shimmed .5mm washer
            fitted with v/stax and uni pod filters

            [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pA8dwxmAVA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/url]

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            • #7
              no i dont have them t'd together, i have the running staight down to the carb. I had to cut the gas line really short so it would not kink. I do the on flows better than the other. Everything is stock on the bike except for some harley like exhaust. I just realized that 2 carbs are fed by each side, I was thinking all 4 were hooked together with t's. So if one petcock is flowing slower, those 2 carbs would get less gas. I am going to try to T i today and see what happens. Thanks a lot.
              Jeff
              77 XS750 2D completely stock
              79 SF XS1100 "Picky" stock with harley mufflers

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              • #8
                You could also try a throttle chop test after your first high RPM run. It sounds like perhaps your running rich in on the mains. Starting to foul out the plugs at hgih RPM, then running on the pilot circuit it clears them up. If you do nto give the pilot circuit time to clen them up, the mains start fouling them out.

                Just another thought on it.
                Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                Previously owned
                93 GSX600F
                80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                81 XS1100 Special
                81 CB750 C
                80 CB750 C
                78 XS750

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                • #9
                  I just checked the fuel flow and the flow the same amount. I put new plugs in it yesterday and the look great. I will try the chop today. I am going to try and find someone with the gauges to synch it.
                  Last edited by jjz28; 05-03-2012, 06:37 AM.
                  Jeff
                  77 XS750 2D completely stock
                  79 SF XS1100 "Picky" stock with harley mufflers

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                  • #10
                    But to answer your question, last time I measured it was something like 8 oz. per minute each as I recall. I did not write it down. Still, if plumbed with a crossover then one cock will run the motor at WOT.
                    Mike Giroir
                    79 XS-1100 Special

                    Once you un-can a can of worms, the only way to re-can them is with a bigger can.

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                    • #11
                      I think mine would be way more than that. I had about 1 1/2 inch in the bottom on a jar in 5 seconds. Counting 1 one thousand 2 one thousand, so I am sure in a minute it would be more than 8 oz. That is just running it out of the petcock into the jar.
                      Jeff
                      77 XS750 2D completely stock
                      79 SF XS1100 "Picky" stock with harley mufflers

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                      • #12
                        Float Hight?

                        I would check to make sure your floats are adjusted right before i synced them. I had simmilar issues with my bike. I found that the floats were smashed down causing my bike to flood the engine. I got that fixed and had it synced and she runs great. Thats just my 2 cents and something to try. Im not sure on the specs but i think i set my float hight to an inch. Hope this helps.
                        80 XS1100G Black Betty (Daily Driver)
                        79 XS1100SF (Buddys Project)
                        82 XJ750 Maxim (Fathers Bike)
                        81 CB750F SS (Buddys Project)
                        06 GSX600F Sold! (Was Mine)
                        81 XS1100 Failed Bobber Project (Mine)
                        81 XS1100 Parts (Mine)

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                        • #13
                          I should have mentioned that mine are set and 1" too. Thanks guys.
                          Jeff
                          77 XS750 2D completely stock
                          79 SF XS1100 "Picky" stock with harley mufflers

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jjz28 View Post
                            I should have mentioned that mine are set and 1" too. Thanks guys.
                            If those carbs match the yr. scoot you have, those float levels ARE too high, and will cause what U have goin' on.
                            81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                            • #15
                              78-79 carb floats are to be set between 24.7mm and 26.7mm. 25.4mm is 1", and right in the middle of spec. Measurement is from the gasket surface to top of float, with gasket removed.
                              1979 Yamaha XS1100SF (gone)
                              Airbox w/K&N element
                              Jardine 4 into 1
                              145 mains, 45 pilots

                              1996 Ducati 900SS CR
                              1977 Kawasaki KZ900-A5
                              1975 Honda CB550K

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