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So after having problems with the XJ I bought in WI in Feb and getting that one straitened out I looked close at the title on this one before Buying. Yep one owner, no leans, no other buyer names, If only I had looked at the VIN#. In prepping for the trip it IL DMV I discover the VIN on the title doesn't match the bike.
Called the owner and went over he showed me recp't from dealer and the current registration which (you guessed it) all match the VIN on the title but not the bike. The PO bought it used at a long time dealer in the area. My position is I believe the PO and he has the rec'p from the dealer. (8 years ago). My guess is that the dealer either made a mistake (swapped) on titles at at the dealership or it came in that way and they either didn't look or looked the other way. Both the title I hold and the real title on the bike are for Black 79s
Went to DMV and explained, got a lot of blank stares and finally they said I had to take it to the police for a VIN check which I did. They like me, ran the numbers and its not reported as stolen. I now have a official paper that says it is what I claim it is. Now DMV says "sorry that VIN is registered on a different valid title, probably not much we can do." I asked DMV if I could file for a lost title and they said no as I'm not the owner.
Call the PO owner back and asked when I could bring it back for a full refund (I'd rather get it figured out and keep it) and he offered to call the dealer where he bought it. Dealer called a little later and offered to contact who they got it from but stated "this was a consignment sale and we had nothing to do with the title"
So does anyone know how to remedy this in IL? I asked IL DMV how someone could have a title with my VIN# and they said it was a BONDED title and that they had posted a bond and no one challenged it (had a 3 year challenge).
I'm not expecting much out of the dealer for an old used bike sold 8 years ago but you never know. I prefer to work it from multiple angles. I could take the seller to small claims to get my $1300 back but I'd rather find a way to title and keep it. I could keep it and part it : ( I'd consider a frame purchase but prefer to have the frame/motor/title all match, I didn't realize how many jacked up titles there are floating around on these bikes.
The XJ I bought had been sold multiple without being transferred and someone wrote the buyers name on the title several sales back. I was able to get that one fixed and transferred and I have clear title on it.
I would think that DMV would force other title holder to confirm VIN, I had that happen in IA on an '45 pickup I owned, turned out mine was ok.
If anyone knows what the next move is here in IL I would appreciate it. I'm convinced that the staff at the local DMV don't know how to handle this but there must be something I can do to move it forward. I considered just transferring the title I had and ride it but that's not the right thing to do. Even walking in I asked myself one more time are you sure you want to do this? I guess no good dead goes un-punished.
Thanks
Called the owner and went over he showed me recp't from dealer and the current registration which (you guessed it) all match the VIN on the title but not the bike. The PO bought it used at a long time dealer in the area. My position is I believe the PO and he has the rec'p from the dealer. (8 years ago). My guess is that the dealer either made a mistake (swapped) on titles at at the dealership or it came in that way and they either didn't look or looked the other way. Both the title I hold and the real title on the bike are for Black 79s
Went to DMV and explained, got a lot of blank stares and finally they said I had to take it to the police for a VIN check which I did. They like me, ran the numbers and its not reported as stolen. I now have a official paper that says it is what I claim it is. Now DMV says "sorry that VIN is registered on a different valid title, probably not much we can do." I asked DMV if I could file for a lost title and they said no as I'm not the owner.
Call the PO owner back and asked when I could bring it back for a full refund (I'd rather get it figured out and keep it) and he offered to call the dealer where he bought it. Dealer called a little later and offered to contact who they got it from but stated "this was a consignment sale and we had nothing to do with the title"
So does anyone know how to remedy this in IL? I asked IL DMV how someone could have a title with my VIN# and they said it was a BONDED title and that they had posted a bond and no one challenged it (had a 3 year challenge).
I'm not expecting much out of the dealer for an old used bike sold 8 years ago but you never know. I prefer to work it from multiple angles. I could take the seller to small claims to get my $1300 back but I'd rather find a way to title and keep it. I could keep it and part it : ( I'd consider a frame purchase but prefer to have the frame/motor/title all match, I didn't realize how many jacked up titles there are floating around on these bikes.
The XJ I bought had been sold multiple without being transferred and someone wrote the buyers name on the title several sales back. I was able to get that one fixed and transferred and I have clear title on it.
I would think that DMV would force other title holder to confirm VIN, I had that happen in IA on an '45 pickup I owned, turned out mine was ok.
If anyone knows what the next move is here in IL I would appreciate it. I'm convinced that the staff at the local DMV don't know how to handle this but there must be something I can do to move it forward. I considered just transferring the title I had and ride it but that's not the right thing to do. Even walking in I asked myself one more time are you sure you want to do this? I guess no good dead goes un-punished.
Thanks
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