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Don
1979 XS1100SF "Old Man" bought by my Dad brand new in 79, customized in 80 with Vetter, Standard tank, and touring seat. I inherited in 02 when Dad passed. Been riding it since 09. No resto, bike is a survivor...
2007 RoadStar 1700 Midnight Silverado "The Black Pearl" Cobra Slash-downs, K&N filter. More mods to come
old:
1989 kawi ex500
1996 yzf-r6
1999 yzf-r1
2001 kawi zx-6r
2000 Ducati 748
2002 YZF-R1
2005 V-Star 1100 Classic
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I only had one time when any of mine ever rattled on quality regular-grade fuel, and Don will appreciate this....
I was running across the Hanford Nuclear Reservation desert from Yakima to I-90 in blast-furnace heat on my '78 (this was in the early 80s) and had the hammer down trying to get somewhere where it was cooler. About 20 minutes into this high-speed run (two-up, towing my trailer), the bike started pinging if I tried to get more 90 mph.... I can't stress too much how hot it was. Finally pulled into the small town of Othello and I swear the temp felt like it dropped 30 degrees. As we were going through town, a time/temp display (in the shade no less) read out 101 degrees, so the temp out on that desert must have been over 120.... We stopped and cooled both the bike and us, and after leaving town never had any more problems; but we never ran in heat like that again...
The SG I rebuilt and sold last year ran fine on the local name-brand regular, including a full-throttle off-idle pull in 5th gear. I have had some issues in the past with off-brand fuel, but you get what you pay for...Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two
'78E original owner - resto project
'78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
'82 XJ rebuild project
'80SG restified, red SOLD
'79F parts...
'81H more parts...
Other current bikes:
'93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
'86 XL883/1200 Chopper
'82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...
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If that bike could talk... The names it would have called you once you got to othello. I know the area you are speaking of. There is no place to hide out there. I went to WSU in pullman. I could tell you stories for days about stuff breaking down on me in the middle of nowheres-ville coming home to vancover. I use to work on the university golf course during the summer. 4th of July in 98 I resided to go home for the weekend. My ex500 ninja left me on the side of the road just outside the umatilla proving grounds. Not a good day.
Always try and put name brand gas in everything. Sometimes you just buy what's available in some of the 1 horse towns you come acrossDon
1979 XS1100SF "Old Man" bought by my Dad brand new in 79, customized in 80 with Vetter, Standard tank, and touring seat. I inherited in 02 when Dad passed. Been riding it since 09. No resto, bike is a survivor...
2007 RoadStar 1700 Midnight Silverado "The Black Pearl" Cobra Slash-downs, K&N filter. More mods to come
old:
1989 kawi ex500
1996 yzf-r6
1999 yzf-r1
2001 kawi zx-6r
2000 Ducati 748
2002 YZF-R1
2005 V-Star 1100 Classic
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Kong seems happy with E-10 and Sea Foam or Berrymans. Lately I've been using Berrymans because it's $4 instead of $8 like Sea Foam. Bike seems happy with either. However, I do run some E-free Premium now and then. Could detect no difference in either power or mileage, but then one day I could and it was impressive. Last time out, over the hill east 100 miles I got 42.5 on E-free. On the way back over the hill west with E-10 I got 42.3. If he has to sit a while, I like the tank to be full of E-free and Sea Foam.1980 XS 11 Special: The King of Kong, 9th wonder of the world. Pacifico fairing, chopped shield, Yamaha hard bags, Diamond seat, T-Kat fork brace, XJ top end, YICS Eliminator, '80 carbs from Spyder Cycle Works, K&N Air filter, Fuse block, stainless steel valves & reg/rect from Oregon MC Parts. Raptor CCT, XJ air shocks, 850 FD, Sportster mufflers, Standard handle bar, Tusk Bar Risers, SS braided brake lines. Cat Eye speedometer. HID projector beam headlight, LED running lights.
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The only difference I can see between SeaFoam and Berryman's (besides the price) is Seafoam has a stabilizer element to it and Berryman's is pretty much a solvent/cleaner.
I'm currently helping a friend resurrect a Honda 1982 CX500 Custom, and am running Berryman's through it for a couple tanks while I am working on the bike (FD fluid change, coolant change, front brake caliper and MC rebuild, etc). This bike is extremely fortunate in that it has been stored with gas in the tank and Stabil in the gas. No signs of the carbs being gummed up or otherwise in bad shape. Choke works, idles great, runs out very well, so Berryman's will help with what little crap exists in the fuel system. So far it has not freed up a whole lotta crap and made things worse, so I keep my fingers crossed in that respect, but I believe it will be fine based on the cleanliness of the tank, etc.
How about the Lucas fuel treatment, the tan-ish colored stuff? Says it contains no solvents, if I remember correctly, and claims to clean the fuel system and carbs/injectors. I buy it by the gallon, and have no complaints, as I don't have any fuel system issues in my bikes or cars that I run it in, and I use the Lucas treatment every other tank or every 3rd tank at least.Howard
ZRX1200
BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462
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Howard, I too buy the Lucas by the gallon. I use it in everything. I originally started using it in my 94 f250 with the idi non-turbo diesel. Now every few tanks I put it in the wifes car. And I've been known to squirt a little infuriated bikes every now and then. It works wonders in my diesel. Not sure about the rest.
As for seafoam I'm a believer as most of you know already.Don
1979 XS1100SF "Old Man" bought by my Dad brand new in 79, customized in 80 with Vetter, Standard tank, and touring seat. I inherited in 02 when Dad passed. Been riding it since 09. No resto, bike is a survivor...
2007 RoadStar 1700 Midnight Silverado "The Black Pearl" Cobra Slash-downs, K&N filter. More mods to come
old:
1989 kawi ex500
1996 yzf-r6
1999 yzf-r1
2001 kawi zx-6r
2000 Ducati 748
2002 YZF-R1
2005 V-Star 1100 Classic
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I used to run both Sea Foam and Lucas in my Maxim 650. It needed a carb overhaul, but I was new to bikes and didn't want to mess it up. It ran like a scalded dog with both in the gas. Haven't used Lucas in Kong. Might get some. It's sposed to extend range on a tank. I got almost 50 mpg out of my Maxim one time. Then I learned how to use the right wrist a little more.
Kong has sat a winter with Sea Foam in the gas, no issues. This year I kept him going at least once a month. When he did sit, it was with E-Free and Berrymans. No worse for the non-wear.1980 XS 11 Special: The King of Kong, 9th wonder of the world. Pacifico fairing, chopped shield, Yamaha hard bags, Diamond seat, T-Kat fork brace, XJ top end, YICS Eliminator, '80 carbs from Spyder Cycle Works, K&N Air filter, Fuse block, stainless steel valves & reg/rect from Oregon MC Parts. Raptor CCT, XJ air shocks, 850 FD, Sportster mufflers, Standard handle bar, Tusk Bar Risers, SS braided brake lines. Cat Eye speedometer. HID projector beam headlight, LED running lights.
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I've felt I picked up a bit of gas mileage with the Lucas when I run it. The only way it was explained to me was it increases the temperature of combustion and thus more power per stroke, per se.
I flat out don't buy that, so I'm still searching for a real answer.Howard
ZRX1200
BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462
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Hmm...well, nothing for it. I suppose I should just go suffer, put on my gear and burn this tank of Super out of the bike to I can put regular in itJoab
"If nothing else, it will be interesting..."
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1972 XS2 650
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Joab, you're a man after my own heart. The best thing I can do for Kong is load him up with what ever gas I can find, then let it out slowly over a span of 100-200 miles. Sometimes he needs a reload @ about 130 or so, but he always sounds real happy by the time we get home. Put Lucas in him today. Idle is smoother and of course, it's easy to twist some power out of him.1980 XS 11 Special: The King of Kong, 9th wonder of the world. Pacifico fairing, chopped shield, Yamaha hard bags, Diamond seat, T-Kat fork brace, XJ top end, YICS Eliminator, '80 carbs from Spyder Cycle Works, K&N Air filter, Fuse block, stainless steel valves & reg/rect from Oregon MC Parts. Raptor CCT, XJ air shocks, 850 FD, Sportster mufflers, Standard handle bar, Tusk Bar Risers, SS braided brake lines. Cat Eye speedometer. HID projector beam headlight, LED running lights.
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I'm a firm believer in most every product Lucas makes. I run their Heavy Duty gear oil in everything... including the mid and final drives in Old Man... I get about 3 more mpg in my old diesel running their fuel treatment in it. I put some in the wifes car every 3rd tank. They make an ethanol conditioner with stabilizer I've been meaning to try in my boat.... some day I'll rememberDon
1979 XS1100SF "Old Man" bought by my Dad brand new in 79, customized in 80 with Vetter, Standard tank, and touring seat. I inherited in 02 when Dad passed. Been riding it since 09. No resto, bike is a survivor...
2007 RoadStar 1700 Midnight Silverado "The Black Pearl" Cobra Slash-downs, K&N filter. More mods to come
old:
1989 kawi ex500
1996 yzf-r6
1999 yzf-r1
2001 kawi zx-6r
2000 Ducati 748
2002 YZF-R1
2005 V-Star 1100 Classic
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Boat; noun pronounced bote
definition; A hole in the water you throw money into.Greg
Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.
The list changes.
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Originally posted by BA80 View PostBoat; noun pronounced bote
definition; A hole in the water you throw money into.Don
1979 XS1100SF "Old Man" bought by my Dad brand new in 79, customized in 80 with Vetter, Standard tank, and touring seat. I inherited in 02 when Dad passed. Been riding it since 09. No resto, bike is a survivor...
2007 RoadStar 1700 Midnight Silverado "The Black Pearl" Cobra Slash-downs, K&N filter. More mods to come
old:
1989 kawi ex500
1996 yzf-r6
1999 yzf-r1
2001 kawi zx-6r
2000 Ducati 748
2002 YZF-R1
2005 V-Star 1100 Classic
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Originally posted by BA80 View PostBoat; noun pronounced bote
definition; A hole in the water you throw money into.
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1978 XS1100E
K&N Filter
#45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
OEM Exhaust
ATK Fork Brace
LED Dash lights
Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
Green Monster Coils
SS Brake Lines
Vision 550 Auto Tensioner
In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.
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Originally posted by ddragon63 View PostLOL! So I've been told. the money goes right into the 2 35 gallon fuel tanks and fly out into the water about as fast as it got pumped in
I think I'll stick with my XS at 30 MPG and about $50 a day max to have fun.Greg
Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.
The list changes.
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