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  • #31
    Ok

    Originally posted by TomB View Post
    C'mon lads, I know you don't like listening to my limie accent but you could at least listen when talking about this bike
    Hi Tom.
    I have an 80XS1100SG. Currently it has the stock 16 in wheel. Exactly what parts do I need to run a 17 in wheel on it? Stock or custom (what dimentions etc.)? How much trouble / time is needed to switch back & forth?
    It is a great big beautiful world out there
    Brent in GA
    Yamaha 80XS1100SG, HD Firefighter Special Edition 02 Road King, Honda 450 rat, 08 Buell 1125R tour modified, 83 goldwing parts bike gone-traded for XJ1100, 2014 HD electraglide police

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    • #32
      Limie accent!! .......the bike called limie accent?? ..........from a Brit? ......never mind, jokes never my best skill



      Brent, as the lads here say, usually going from 17" to 16" is how folk go, do you want the 17" for better gas mileage?

      Obviously the wheel, and the steel torque plate from the 17" wheel bikes and their wheel spacers. The caliper and caliper carrier are the same.

      If you don't want to use the different steel brake torque plate you can bend yours to fit the swing arm peg and use washers to make sure the caliper bracket fits over the disc centrally.

      Here are the different wheels and spacers
      This is the Special


      The bearing housing on the Standard wheel protrudes further out than the Special wheel bearing housing.

      This is Standard




      Or you could go the long way round and make up your own parts, heres a combined bracket/torque plate for holding a front caliper on the rear wheel








      Tom
      1982 5K7 Sport, restored to original from a wreck
      1978 2H9 (E), my original XS11, mostly original
      1980 2H9 monoshocked (avatar pic)http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...psf30aa1c8.jpg
      1982 XJ1100, waiting resto to original

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      • #33
        Brent,

        Why the 17" wheel? Is it even OK to run a 130 mm wide tire on a 2.5 in rim? I wouldn't do it.
        Marty (in Mississippi)
        XS1100SG
        XS650SK
        XS650SH
        XS650G
        XS6502F
        XS650E

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        • #34
          Originally posted by jetmechmarty View Post
          Brent,

          Why the 17" wheel? Is it even OK to run a 130 mm wide tire on a 2.5 in rim? I wouldn't do it.
          IIRC the first number in the tire size is the width in mm, and the proper tire size for a standard on the rear is a 130/70-17, so I would have to say that not only is it OK, but pretty much the standard.
          Cy

          1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
          Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
          Vetter Windjammer IV
          Vetter hard bags & Trunk
          OEM Luggage Rack
          Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
          Spade Fuse Box
          Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
          750 FD Mod
          TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
          XJ1100 Front Footpegs
          XJ1100 Shocks

          I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by cywelchjr View Post
            IIRC the first number in the tire size is the width in mm, and the proper tire size for a standard on the rear is a 130/70-17, so I would have to say that not only is it OK, but pretty much the standard.
            I don't think you'll find a tire manufacturer that says it's OK to put their 5 in wide tire on a 2.5 in rim. I'm pretty sure they recommend at least 3 in. IIRC, there are 25.4 mm in an inch. I'm not trying to start something, but I thought it worthy of pointing out.
            Marty (in Mississippi)
            XS1100SG
            XS650SK
            XS650SH
            XS650G
            XS6502F
            XS650E

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            • #36
              Originally posted by jetmechmarty View Post
              I don't think you'll find a tire manufacturer that says it's OK to put their 5 in wide tire on a 2.5 in rim. I'm pretty sure they recommend at least 3 in. IIRC, there are 25.4 mm in an inch. I'm not trying to start something, but I thought it worthy of pointing out.
              Actually the ORIGINAL stock tire on the standard was a 4.50, and a 130 is pretty much the same width, but not as tall as the original OEM tire was, so I'm pretty sure your incorrect since Yamaha wouldn't have spec'ed a tire that the tire manufacturers would have considered unsafe, especially on a bike that was taken out and raced on tires of that size. As a matter of fact I believe the rear rim on the goldwing of the same era is about the same width and uses the same size tire. The thing that makes getting a tire that works for our bikes difficult is getting one that can handle the load in the 17 inch size, for some reason a lot of them seem to be rated for a much lower load than is needed for the XS11.
              Cy

              1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
              Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
              Vetter Windjammer IV
              Vetter hard bags & Trunk
              OEM Luggage Rack
              Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
              Spade Fuse Box
              Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
              750 FD Mod
              TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
              XJ1100 Front Footpegs
              XJ1100 Shocks

              I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by jetmechmarty View Post
                Why the 17" wheel? Is it even OK to run a 130 mm wide tire on a 2.5 in rim? I wouldn't do it.
                Why? Besides, I just went and measured and it looks like the standard rim is about 3" wide
                Greg

                Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                ― Albert Einstein

                80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

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                • #38
                  Hey Marty, you could always talk Brent out of the 17" rear wheel mod and into the 750FD upgrade, the ratios should be pretty close between the two. The 17" rear wheel raises the bike though.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by BA80 View Post
                    Why? Besides, I just went and measured and it looks like the standard rim is about 3" wide
                    (?) Were you measuring from the inside of the rim, side to side; where bead of the tire sits down into?
                    JCarltonRiggs

                    81XS1100SH; WorkingMotorcycle,Not For Show,DeletedFairing,SportsterHL,
                    7½ gal. Kaw Concours gastank,1972 Wixom Bros. bags

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                    • #40
                      I was measuring from the outside because the tire is on but calculating where the inner tire surface contacted. That's why I said ABOUT.
                      Greg

                      Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                      ― Albert Einstein

                      80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                      The list changes.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by BA80 View Post
                        I was measuring from the outside because the tire is on but calculating where the inner tire surface contacted. That's why I said ABOUT.
                        The special wheel is 3", the 17" standard wheel is 2.5".... and the original 4.50H-17 tire is 5.25" wide.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
                          The special wheel is 3", the 17" standard wheel is 2.5".... and the original 4.50H-17 tire is 5.25" wide.
                          And as I recall the 130/70-17 is about the same width but a little shorter in height. Which is why I say the Marty is mistaken as Yamaha would not have specified the tire they did if there was a problem with that width tire on the standards rim.
                          Cy

                          1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                          Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                          Vetter Windjammer IV
                          Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                          OEM Luggage Rack
                          Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                          Spade Fuse Box
                          Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                          750 FD Mod
                          TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                          XJ1100 Front Footpegs
                          XJ1100 Shocks

                          I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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                          • #43
                            That's nuthin'! I've seen kids putting 6" wide tires on 10" wide rims on their cars.. That's so cooolll... lol.
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                            • #44
                              I'm looking at what the tire manufacturers recommend. Have a look. I guess tires have changed over the years. It's the tire manufacturers that recommend the 3 in rim for the 130 mm tire. I look at that pinched tire and it bothers me.
                              Marty (in Mississippi)
                              XS1100SG
                              XS650SK
                              XS650SH
                              XS650G
                              XS6502F
                              XS650E

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