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  • lee_dutcher
    XSive Maximus
    • Apr 2009
    • 822
    • mason city iowa

    #1

    aftermarket fuel valves

    anyone will to put some input or reviews....plus i dont really know what will or will not fit.
    _____________________________________________ 1979 XS 1100 Special "The judge" mods- K&N air pods, 4-1 mac, 147.5 pilots, 57.5 mains, LED turn signal, cafe bars, HEL translucent yellow stainless steel brake line, dyna coil (dc2-1), raptor 660 mc, r6 controls..(sold)

    1982 gs1100e "all business" cafe project
    1980 gs1000g "stock"
    1982 honda express "stretched 10 inch(my daughters scooter)
    2008 jmstar 150cc Chinese scooter ( wife's bike)
  • Laptop_geek
    Truly XSive
    • Nov 2011
    • 135
    • Memphis, TENN.

    #2
    If your just looking for functionality autozone has some.

    http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...er=209292_0_0_

    If your looking for something to replace your fuel cut off I can't help you there. The factory ones are probably going to be as good as your going to get. You can get a rebuild kit for both for around $40 if yours are leaking.
    1979 XS1100

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    • Rasputin
      XS-XJ Super Guru
      • Apr 2008
      • 3180
      • Lacombe, Alberta, Canada

      #3
      Seriously why fart around with other petcocks? Just fix the ones you have. Kits are relatively cheap and the valves do what they are expected too.
      2-79 XS1100 SF
      2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
      80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
      Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!

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      • bikerphil
        Master of XSology
        • Jan 2008
        • 8635
        • South Flori-DUH

        #4
        Here's what I use on both my 11's....

        http://www.amazon.com/Pingel--Line-V...8155122&sr=8-1
        2H7 (79) owned since '89
        3H3 owned since '06

        "If it ain't broke, modify it"

        โ˜ฎ

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        • fredintoon
          Master of XSology
          • Mar 2004
          • 6795
          • Saskatoon SK

          #5
          Originally posted by lee_dutcher
          anyone will to put some input or reviews....plus i dont really know what will or will not fit.
          Hi Lee,
          if you fix what you got you know they're gonna fit.
          Pingels cost a fortune but they do work and they also make adapter plates to fit most bikes.
          Fred Hill, S'toon
          XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
          "The Flying Pumpkin"

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          • Prothec
            XSive Maximus
            • Jul 2007
            • 587
            • Fort Myers, FL

            #6
            There are probably plenty of unused octy's from XJs out there but that turns the needed fuel line into maybe 4 feet
            82J ยท 81SH ยท 79SF Fire Damage ยท 78E ยท 79F Parts Bike ยท 04 Buell Blast
            Website/Blog

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            • Aches n Pains
              XStremely XSive
              • Sep 2009
              • 349
              • Reston, Va.

              #7
              Low cost, simple insurance. I stick the Autozone shutoff (for a lawn mower) in each line and they work great. My petcocks work well but they are notorious so why worry. I have also removed the Octy.
              1995 KZ100P
              Pods, jets, pipes, cam adjuster, oil cooler

              1977 Ironhead - custom build
              Hot engine, custom frame, KZ front and rear, high torque starter, alternator conversion, Progressive shocks, Thunderheart wiring, Dyna ignition, oil cooler, Dakota Digital instruments, etc.

              Sold all my XS's to Eastcoaster but still love to keep up with you guys. This is the best cycle forum on the web.

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              • DAVINCI
                XS-XJ Guru
                • Jan 2011
                • 1048
                • Cedar Mountain, NC

                #8
                Originally posted by Rasputin
                Seriously why fart around with other petcocks? Just fix the ones you have. Kits are relatively cheap and the valves do what they are expected too.
                No they don't...depends on the maker of the kit. BTDT. I found problems with the K&L kit...the vacuum plunger is 2mm shorter than the OEM plunger. They pissed gas even without vacuum applied.
                Former owner, but I have NO PARTS LEFT!

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                • motoman
                  Master of XSology
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 8413
                  • Grand Junction, Colorado

                  #9
                  Originally posted by DAVINCI
                  I found problems with the K&L kit...the vacuum plunger is 2mm shorter than the OEM plunger. They pissed gas even without vacuum applied.
                  Kinda sounds like the same failing if an unsuspecting person used K&L jets!............you'll NEVER get your scoot to run correctly..........
                  81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                  • lee_dutcher
                    XSive Maximus
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 822
                    • mason city iowa

                    #10
                    i think u guys are rite...ill have to bite the bullet and but the rebuild kits....i need 2. just hope they help. because both of mine are leaking REALLY bad....
                    _____________________________________________ 1979 XS 1100 Special "The judge" mods- K&N air pods, 4-1 mac, 147.5 pilots, 57.5 mains, LED turn signal, cafe bars, HEL translucent yellow stainless steel brake line, dyna coil (dc2-1), raptor 660 mc, r6 controls..(sold)

                    1982 gs1100e "all business" cafe project
                    1980 gs1000g "stock"
                    1982 honda express "stretched 10 inch(my daughters scooter)
                    2008 jmstar 150cc Chinese scooter ( wife's bike)

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                    • sthomag
                      XSive
                      • May 2009
                      • 60

                      #11
                      An alternative

                      If you want to use a direct replacement for your vacuum taps, you could try this:

                      http://www.mikesxs.net/product/20-0019.html

                      It should fit right up. A little expensive, but no worries and no hassles with adapters, etc.

                      On the other hand, I rebuilt my vacuum-operated valves a few years ago and have had no problems with them.

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                      • cywelchjr
                        XS-XJ Super Guru(Deceased)
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 4450
                        • Sacramento, CA

                        #12
                        Originally posted by sthomag
                        If you want to use a direct replacement for your vacuum taps, you could try this:

                        http://www.mikesxs.net/product/20-0019.html

                        It should fit right up. A little expensive, but no worries and no hassles with adapters, etc.

                        On the other hand, I rebuilt my vacuum-operated valves a few years ago and have had no problems with them.
                        Those will only work for standards, as the 650 petcock is the same as the left side 1100 standard petcock, and the one on the right side will work backwards, for the specials you will still need to deal with some other type of petcock and an adapter. That said, the special petcock is pretty much a normal petcock anyways once you get rid of the octy.
                        Cy

                        1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                        Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                        Vetter Windjammer IV
                        Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                        OEM Luggage Rack
                        Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                        Spade Fuse Box
                        Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                        750 FD Mod
                        TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                        XJ1100 Front Footpegs
                        XJ1100 Shocks

                        I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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                        • lee_dutcher
                          XSive Maximus
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 822
                          • mason city iowa

                          #13
                          octy has been gone...lol...best thing i have done for her sence i got it..
                          _____________________________________________ 1979 XS 1100 Special "The judge" mods- K&N air pods, 4-1 mac, 147.5 pilots, 57.5 mains, LED turn signal, cafe bars, HEL translucent yellow stainless steel brake line, dyna coil (dc2-1), raptor 660 mc, r6 controls..(sold)

                          1982 gs1100e "all business" cafe project
                          1980 gs1000g "stock"
                          1982 honda express "stretched 10 inch(my daughters scooter)
                          2008 jmstar 150cc Chinese scooter ( wife's bike)

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                          • Rasputin
                            XS-XJ Super Guru
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 3180
                            • Lacombe, Alberta, Canada

                            #14
                            Originally posted by DAVINCI
                            No they don't...depends on the maker of the kit. BTDT. I found problems with the K&L kit...the vacuum plunger is 2mm shorter than the OEM plunger. They pissed gas even without vacuum applied.
                            Sorry Davinci but the signature says 79SF. The question was petcock related so I posted about the kits. There are no vacuum plungers on a 79SF type petcock. So yes the kits will work.
                            The octy has one and yes that can be a problem, from what I hear. My octy works fine with the K+L kit I got from georgefix. Other have not been so lucky.
                            Glad to hear you have it working now Lee. Personally I like and keep the Octy but as many here have posted a hate for the thing, I know it is personal preference. To me it is one more thing to help keep gas out of my oil which could cost me a motor one day. Half the time I can not remember what day it is never mind turning the petcocks off and on. Not much is more embarrasing than having your ride run out of fuel in the middle of a busy intersection just because I forgot to turn the petcocks on .
                            That said when I was young and Noah was building his ark, I had petcocks that I had to manually turn on and off. More than once I had the damn thing flooded to the point I had to tow it with a car to get it running. Guess my memory has never been all that good. Luckily back then it was a 2 stroke and I did not lose a motor. I also never had the info available to me in this era, like this site, that could have helped a young gun out.
                            2-79 XS1100 SF
                            2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
                            80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
                            Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!

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                            • SFerinTEXAS
                              XSive Maximus
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 876

                              #15
                              If you just want the petcock disc try this Kawasaki part. It and the special disc are the same in aftermarket kits. Half the price from Kawa than Yam.

                              11009-1188 . That's the way I'm going next time. If you do then give a feedback.

                              Terry

                              BTW, I got the XJ kit from PartsnMore and on the octy plunger had to swap my old o-ring over to make it work and it did.
                              Last edited by SFerinTEXAS; 02-11-2012, 07:47 PM.
                              79SF
                              XJ11
                              78E

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