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  • #16
    Originally posted by TopCatGr58 View Post
    Hey Steve,

    I was going to take a photo of mine, but then remembered that I had to replace my switch in 2000 with my rebuild! I used an earlier model (no hazard) switch on mine from a wrecker, and I don't recall having to make any changes to the actual plug. I did want to keep my 4 way flasher function so I found the power wire from the HAZARD flasher under the seat, not the turn signal flasher, and then spliced into the green and brown signal wires using a DPDT switch, split the power from the flasher to both sides of the DPDT but wired it to one end pair of poles, and then connected the outputs center poles of the DPDT to the respective green and brown wires going to the turn signals where I spliced into the harness.

    Throw the switch to one end, it cuts out the turns, and powers all 4 signals for ER flashers, throw the switch the other way, and it cuts out the ER flasher and lets the separate turn signal power get thru for each signal side! Mounted the switch to the frame under the left side cover, since I don't have an air box, easy access.

    I know this doesn't necessarily help Mrtinajero, but like Steve said, the wiring is the same for all of the other switches aside from the hazard. Hopefully the colors will be the same, but might not?? But using the wiring diagram he should be able to figure out what wires that are loose are for what circuit.

    Still would be nice for someone with an 81/hazard switch to post a photo for him!

    Wondering what harm would be done to solder the loose wires to where he might think they go, and then turn the key on and test it? Maybe blow a fuse? Would probably be better to get out the testmeter and find out which wire is hot, etc.!

    T.C.

    PS, Happy belated B'day Marty...didn't see your post until I posted mine, then had to edit it!
    80/81 are the same switch, and I just posted a picture of my spare.
    Cy

    1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
    Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
    Vetter Windjammer IV
    Vetter hard bags & Trunk
    OEM Luggage Rack
    Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
    Spade Fuse Box
    Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
    750 FD Mod
    TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
    XJ1100 Front Footpegs
    XJ1100 Shocks

    I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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    • #17
      Good picture CY. Glad to see you are doing better. I would have done it but I am 100 miles from home tonight.

      Now with the picture and the info Steve sent you should be able to solder and test. You still may want to clean and lubricate the switch internally after the fix.
      To fix the problem one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed.

      Rodan
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khm6...liHntN91DHjHiS
      1980 G Silverbird
      Original Yamaha Fairfing and Bags
      1198 Overbore kit
      Grizzly 660 ACCT
      Barnett Clutch Springs
      R1 Clutch Fiber Plates
      122.5 Main Jets
      ACCT Mod
      Mac 4-2 Flare Tips
      Antivibe Bar ends
      Rear trunk add-on
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      • #18
        Not to hijack but looking at my switch it appears that I've been POed. My brown/white wire appears to be in the wrong spot.



        Would this cause a very rapid blink when the hazards are on but let the blinkers flash at a normal rate?
        Last edited by daf1668; 01-28-2012, 09:41 PM.
        Current 1981 xs1100H
        First Bike was 1982 xj550j

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        • #19
          my switch solder repair

          I had to resolder my switch leads back together a few months ago. My advice is to watch how hot you get the joint. I had a hard time getting mine to stay connected after it cooled. So I went and got a soldering gun. (More heat) it so hot, the plastic started melting. After about 2hrs I finally got it all back together.
          Hi, my name is George & I'm a twisty addict!

          80G (Green paint(PO idea))
          The Green Monster
          K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, '81 oil cooler, TC's homemade 4-2 w/Mac Mufflers, Raptor 660 ACCT
          Got him in '04.
          bald tire & borrowing parts

          80SG (Black w/red emblems & calipers)
          Scarlet
          K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, WJ5, Shoei bags, Raptor 660 ACCT.
          Got her in '11
          Ready for the twisties!

          81H (previously CPMaynard's)
          Hugo
          Full Venturer, Indigo Blue with B/W painted tank.
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          • #20
            IIRC that is the same place electrically, so it should work fine. The fast on the 4 ways but normal on the normal turn signals would point to the wrong flasher unit on the 4 way flasher. Easiest fix is to replace the 4 way flasher with a 2 prong heavy duty automotive flasher which will then always flash at the same (proper) speed no matter what the load. I'm seriously considering changing mine out that way to get more noticeable 4 ways, as I'm not happy with the way they work right now. I've got one laying around that should work fine, I just have to do it, but I'm running a little short on get up and go for some reason right now . I can't figure out why that would be though .

            Other than installing the replacement mirror when it comes in, and tightening the highway pegs some more, I've pretty much got the mechanical work done (still got one or two things left to do, but the bike is street worthy as of this moment), but I can't seem to make myself get down there and do the work to put the auto cam chain tensioner in.
            Cy

            1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
            Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
            Vetter Windjammer IV
            Vetter hard bags & Trunk
            OEM Luggage Rack
            Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
            Spade Fuse Box
            Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
            750 FD Mod
            TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
            XJ1100 Front Footpegs
            XJ1100 Shocks

            I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by daf1668 View Post
              Not to hijack but looking at my switch it appears that I've been POed. My brown/white wire appears to be in the wrong spot.

              [IMG][/IMG]

              Would this cause a very rapid blink when the hazards are on but let the blinkers flash at a normal rate?
              The flasher unit for the hazards has probably been changed and is too light duty. Try a different flasher.

              It's right under the seat where you sit.
              Greg

              Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

              ― Albert Einstein

              80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

              The list changes.

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              • #22
                Thanks for all the help guys. Those pictures will surely do a lot of good. I'm going to give that setup a shot from cy's pic. Ill let you know how it turned out
                1981 yamaha xs eleven standard

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                • #23
                  Turn and Hazard Schematic

                  Mr. T, I honestly don't remember where the wires connect on the switch and I'd have to open it up to take a picture; not going to happen today.

                  Here's the Yamaha factory schematic for the turn signals and hazard flashers.

                  Click the image to enlarge:-




                  I re-soldered all of the connections a few years ago and I know they work because I keep testing them by bumping the switch with the back of my hand when I unsnap the tonneau cover on the fairing.
                  -- Scott
                  _____

                  2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                  1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                  1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                  1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                  1979 XS1100F: parts
                  2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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                  • #24
                    Thanks i will check out the flasher.
                    Current 1981 xs1100H
                    First Bike was 1982 xj550j

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